10-08-2009, 05:10 PM
Hello 3D! I hope you don't mind my staccato response patterns, as I've gotten busy in-between my posts. But it's afforded me some time to further ponder and formulate a response as well.
I agree with the above, but wanted to comment. Perhaps there really isn't a 3D Sunset (sorry, couldn't resist) in our working. Because if 3D is to eventually evolve and rise again on Earth, it would need such light to work with, no? Rather that the 4D Sunrise is so bright that 3D entities will only be temporarily denied incarnation ahccess ere, which allows time for the mysterious 4D cloaking / learning to occur. 3D in other words goes in to potentiation as you said, but perhaps this only means that the light is still here to work with, just that it's not going to be used for a while? Or do you think this theory is wrong and that the 3d sun will rise again at some other galactic clock time, shining in the sky along side the 4d (and 2d, 1d) sun again?
Gladly! What do you mean exactly by devolve? It seems to go against nature to see a species devolve if you are meaning in the Darwinian sense (becoming stupider and stupider? (I am resisting inserting political jokes here)). Rather I think our species, Homosapians, will simply evolve in to something else in 4th density so that the Homosapian terminology will no longer really apply. ("Light-bodies", etc.)
For me the third scenario makes the most sense, and sort of goes along with my theory that we're talking about separate space/time dimensions. The first two cases you outlined have some inherent problems that a lot of sci-fi movies capitalize on with invisibility. That is- someone accidentally bumping in to something that's invisible. That's a pretty big law of confusion buster right there! But there are other issues such as the need to share Earth's natural resources between 3rd and 4th density populations. Or suppose the next 3rd density on Earth turns out to be very similar to ours, and they invent nuclear bombs that could possibly impact 4th density entities, or they cause global climate crisis issues which would also be an issue for 4th density.
If you take up the interpretation that "learning to become invisible to 3rd density" means learning how to live more and more in a different dimension of reality altogether (similar to how Ra exists outside of our reality) I think it becomes a bit more elegant.
Although I should point out and be my own devils advocate that we don't exactly know what time line we're working with for the next 3rd density to arrive. If it's a long time, say a billion years, it may well be that all traces of our civilization as we know it now would well have vanished as the Earth recycles everything eventually. (Mars for example). There's a great History channel documentary about this phenomenon called "Life after People". Things like streets and concrete vanish surprisingly fast thanks to plant life. Steel structures and large things like the Hoover dam take longer, but they point out that after a certain amount of time elapses, the Earth would be as virgin again as it was when the Dinosaurs were around. I see no reason why that couldn't be the case before the next 3rd density.
The next 3rd density also may not be bipedal humanoids that we are. They may be aquatic, subterranean or plant like beings that might not be easily aware of 4th density life anyways. And maybe our future here on Earth is in floating cities high above the clouds? Any of these scenarios could play out. Without more information (or a safety net) as you mentioned earlier, we're free to speculate.
No argument from me on this point! Although it may lead me to speculate on my own status as a D.A.E., considering I have never had paranormal, psychic or meaningful "veil piercing" spiritual experiences myself. The only thing I can accredit myself with is an insatiable hunger for a greater meaning over this last year, which has subverted almost all of my free time away from hobbies and in to metaphysical research. May be that that is my hallmark
Yet many 3rd density entities share this attribute. Well whichever it is I am content as you are to share, love and experience the creation and trust that all is well with my path.
(10-07-2009, 11:12 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: To me, a planet's xD body is activated if it is receiving xD light and interacting with xD entities incarnate on that plane. The extent to which it is activated, is a function of the number of entities interacting with it. So today we have both Earth's 3D and 4D bodies active (as well as 1D and 2D obviously). Thusly, when Earth is no longer receiving 3D light and has no 3D entities on it, it's 3D body fades out and moves from an activated to a potentiated state.
I agree with the above, but wanted to comment. Perhaps there really isn't a 3D Sunset (sorry, couldn't resist) in our working. Because if 3D is to eventually evolve and rise again on Earth, it would need such light to work with, no? Rather that the 4D Sunrise is so bright that 3D entities will only be temporarily denied incarnation ahccess ere, which allows time for the mysterious 4D cloaking / learning to occur. 3D in other words goes in to potentiation as you said, but perhaps this only means that the light is still here to work with, just that it's not going to be used for a while? Or do you think this theory is wrong and that the 3d sun will rise again at some other galactic clock time, shining in the sky along side the 4d (and 2d, 1d) sun again?
(10-07-2009, 11:12 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: So it is plausible to think that the current form could actually "devolve" back into a 2D form simultaneous with the DAEs evolving into 4D. This is something that never occurred to me until you asked the question, but I see it as plausible as the complete elimination of homo sapiens and the future re-evolution of a similar bipedal form. We can explore this fascinating concept in greater detail if you are you'd like.
Gladly! What do you mean exactly by devolve? It seems to go against nature to see a species devolve if you are meaning in the Darwinian sense (becoming stupider and stupider? (I am resisting inserting political jokes here)). Rather I think our species, Homosapians, will simply evolve in to something else in 4th density so that the Homosapian terminology will no longer really apply. ("Light-bodies", etc.)
(10-07-2009, 11:12 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: Here again, I'm working without a net, but my instinct is to think that the entities themselves (once fully evolved to 4D form, not DAEs) will be able to cloak their existence from 3D beings through thought. As to the structures, etc. of their existence, I have a few possible solutions.
For me the third scenario makes the most sense, and sort of goes along with my theory that we're talking about separate space/time dimensions. The first two cases you outlined have some inherent problems that a lot of sci-fi movies capitalize on with invisibility. That is- someone accidentally bumping in to something that's invisible. That's a pretty big law of confusion buster right there! But there are other issues such as the need to share Earth's natural resources between 3rd and 4th density populations. Or suppose the next 3rd density on Earth turns out to be very similar to ours, and they invent nuclear bombs that could possibly impact 4th density entities, or they cause global climate crisis issues which would also be an issue for 4th density.
If you take up the interpretation that "learning to become invisible to 3rd density" means learning how to live more and more in a different dimension of reality altogether (similar to how Ra exists outside of our reality) I think it becomes a bit more elegant.
Although I should point out and be my own devils advocate that we don't exactly know what time line we're working with for the next 3rd density to arrive. If it's a long time, say a billion years, it may well be that all traces of our civilization as we know it now would well have vanished as the Earth recycles everything eventually. (Mars for example). There's a great History channel documentary about this phenomenon called "Life after People". Things like streets and concrete vanish surprisingly fast thanks to plant life. Steel structures and large things like the Hoover dam take longer, but they point out that after a certain amount of time elapses, the Earth would be as virgin again as it was when the Dinosaurs were around. I see no reason why that couldn't be the case before the next 3rd density.
The next 3rd density also may not be bipedal humanoids that we are. They may be aquatic, subterranean or plant like beings that might not be easily aware of 4th density life anyways. And maybe our future here on Earth is in floating cities high above the clouds? Any of these scenarios could play out. Without more information (or a safety net) as you mentioned earlier, we're free to speculate.
(10-07-2009, 11:12 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: Following on the discussion about 3D Earth going into potentiation, I see the full activation of Earth's 4D body as happening through a combination of the increasing 4D light available and a pulling force cause by the DAEs beginning to interact with it - sort of pulling it into full activation. I think that there are several examples around this site of DAEs that are presently (and unknowingly) interacting with Earth's increasingly space/time manifest 4D body. Both fairyfarmgirl (in post #13 above) and akhtu among others recently described examples (to me at least) of these interactions. I think that these experiences would be fascinating to explore and compare in more detail on this thread, if we consider them as experiences of DAE's on the 4D Earth. (By the way, yes I am saying that I believe fairyfarmgirl, akhtu, Eddie, you Lavazza, and others are DAEs.) What you hear in these discussions are people that occupy the same space/time, but are clearly on a different "plane".
No argument from me on this point! Although it may lead me to speculate on my own status as a D.A.E., considering I have never had paranormal, psychic or meaningful "veil piercing" spiritual experiences myself. The only thing I can accredit myself with is an insatiable hunger for a greater meaning over this last year, which has subverted almost all of my free time away from hobbies and in to metaphysical research. May be that that is my hallmark
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