(10-12-2011, 10:39 AM)Odinn Wrote: "In NDE after DNE [the beings of light] stress two things. One is the importance of love. Over and over they repeat this message, that we must learn to replace anger with love, learn to forgive and love everyone unconditionally, and learn that we in turn are loved. This appears to be the only moral criterion the beings use. Even sexual activity ceases to possess the moral stigma awe humans are so fond of attaching to it. [...] It appears that in the minds of the beings of light, compassion is the barometer of grace, and time and time again when NDErs wonder if some act they committed was right or wrong, the beings counter their inquiries only with a question: Did you do it out of love? Was the motivation love?
"That is why we have being placed here on earth, say the beings, to learn that love is the key. They acknowledge that it is a difficult undertaking, but intimate that it is crucial to both our biological and spiritual existence in ways that we have perhaps not even begun to fathom. Even children return from the near-death realm with this message firmly impressed in their thoughts. States one little boy who after being hit by a car was guided into the world beyond by two people in 'very white' robes: 'What I learned there is that the more important thing is loving while you are alive'.
Thanks for that quote Odinn - I can say that my experience was the same, in terms of the message I received. Not so much 'beings of light' in my experience, but rather lots of voices. And the thought, again and again, that everything came back to love. I tried thinking about "this", it came back to love. I tried thinking of "that", it came back to love. I tried to think about things that I found hard to do or deal with, i.e. people or 'problems' I thought I had ... everything came back to love. Even the 'bad' stuff came back to love. Love was all there was.
That's why in the end I felt the whole Aya experience was valid. The things I saw and felt were mirrored by people describing thier NDE experiences. So there MUST be some validity to what everyone experiences.
(10-14-2011, 09:21 AM)Oceania Wrote: i meant i'm not ready for upgrade harvest Edinburgh. i wish i was you guys. do you think still craving lower density yummies is a sign? like i dunno if i could give up pizza and beer. i'm just being honest. i can go months off that stuff but in the end i always go back somehow. what does it mean to be ready? how do hyou know?
It doesn't matter Oceania. Don't worry about it. Just be as you are. Crave and eat, if you want. I don't think anyone can tell anyone else who's ready and who's not. Do what you feel is right in any situation and you will be OK (as long as your not harming anyone). In the end, we all 'make the grade', if not this time round, then next. The whole process is all about progression, its a process, not a 'end-point'. See the quote Odinn wrote to get an idea of what I mean ...
(10-12-2011, 10:39 AM)Odinn Wrote: " ... Others are prodded with statements such as 'learning is a continuous process and goes on even after death' and 'knowledge is one of the few things you will be able to take with you after you have died'". (pp. 250-251)