peels, thanks for posting your story! I was hoping you would post it! It could be very valuable to others. Thanks for sharing. You had some incredible experiences!
(Note: peelstreetguy had shared this story with me previously, via pm.)
After reading your story, when I looked up other Salvia stories on youtube and some other website, it seems that many other people had similar experiences. I read a number of the stories and it seemed that many had the same themes of some sort of void, a black nothingness, along with an awareness of a female entity as well as various negative entities.
I didn't really find any positive stories, that I recall.
That's not to say that Salvia is a negative spirit...Not having experienced this plant ally myself, I can only surmise that Ole's assessment might be right on: that Salvia is advanced stuff, best used only by experienced shamans. (shamen?) Definitely not a party drug!
I can only wonder what is happening to all those dual-activated teenagers using it. Maybe it's accelerating their activation and the surfacing of old issues...or maybe it's taking them totally off-course.
I don't regret my experiences, but they were so long ago. We're so late in the game now. It seems to me that inviting any plant ally is a decision to be made very carefully and consciously.
Hmmm...interesting. I have very little experience, compared to some of the pro's on this forum!
I only did LSD 5 times, and mushrooms twice, and that was over 30 years ago. In my case, the acid was definitely the 'deep end' and the mushrooms mild in comparison. I remember that when I did the shrooms, I realized that I could expand my awareness any time I chose, without any allies, and likewise could become instantly straight even while under the influence. I was probably wrong about that, since I've never been able to do it totally at will, and I certainly wouldn't want to do some drug and expect to straighten up instantly, but it was an interesting realization. Anyway, my last mushroom experience was mild, and right on the heels of a major spiritual awakening, so it was sort of anti-climactic. Only that 1st acid trip was truly profound. I guess I just didn't get enough experience in to really say much! I just remember being disappointed at not being able to recapture that first experience. But I guess I didn't need to.
The thought of teens doing it as casually as they do pot really blows my mind. I wonder how many of them are getting their minds messed up!
(Note: peelstreetguy had shared this story with me previously, via pm.)
After reading your story, when I looked up other Salvia stories on youtube and some other website, it seems that many other people had similar experiences. I read a number of the stories and it seemed that many had the same themes of some sort of void, a black nothingness, along with an awareness of a female entity as well as various negative entities.
I didn't really find any positive stories, that I recall.
That's not to say that Salvia is a negative spirit...Not having experienced this plant ally myself, I can only surmise that Ole's assessment might be right on: that Salvia is advanced stuff, best used only by experienced shamans. (shamen?) Definitely not a party drug!
I can only wonder what is happening to all those dual-activated teenagers using it. Maybe it's accelerating their activation and the surfacing of old issues...or maybe it's taking them totally off-course.
I don't regret my experiences, but they were so long ago. We're so late in the game now. It seems to me that inviting any plant ally is a decision to be made very carefully and consciously.
(09-22-2009, 12:36 PM)Ole Wrote: I much prefer to work with plants, too, but I still think that there are certain times when syntethics like LSD are useful too. LSD is much easier to navigate once you get a hang of it, and that means you can avoid shadow work if you want. You can go directly for the light and sometimes that is very valuable. At times you might be too unstable and depressed to face deep issues with, for example, mushrooms, and a little pre-work with LSD can help you get rid of the worst, before you dive in at the deep end later.
Hmmm...interesting. I have very little experience, compared to some of the pro's on this forum!
I only did LSD 5 times, and mushrooms twice, and that was over 30 years ago. In my case, the acid was definitely the 'deep end' and the mushrooms mild in comparison. I remember that when I did the shrooms, I realized that I could expand my awareness any time I chose, without any allies, and likewise could become instantly straight even while under the influence. I was probably wrong about that, since I've never been able to do it totally at will, and I certainly wouldn't want to do some drug and expect to straighten up instantly, but it was an interesting realization. Anyway, my last mushroom experience was mild, and right on the heels of a major spiritual awakening, so it was sort of anti-climactic. Only that 1st acid trip was truly profound. I guess I just didn't get enough experience in to really say much! I just remember being disappointed at not being able to recapture that first experience. But I guess I didn't need to. (09-22-2009, 12:36 PM)Ole Wrote: About Salvia, I have very limited experience with this plant, but I could clearly feel that it's not a plant for beginners. It's very weird that it is sold in porn shops and gas stations as a mild substitute for weed, which it is not.
The thought of teens doing it as casually as they do pot really blows my mind. I wonder how many of them are getting their minds messed up!