09-17-2009, 04:55 AM
(09-16-2009, 10:26 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Ali, you are being far more generous than I am. I suppose it may have some symbolic significance, but, imo, that is sort of like picking out a few slivers of gold in a mountain of rubbish.Actually, I don't think it's slivers of gold, it's gang turf tagging. That reference to Kennedy really says it all. And the Vatican crumbling is a direct threat. This is in the style of european gothic imagery.
There's a beautiful statue with a lion crushing a dragon.. How quaint. But it simply means england will crush France. A kind of threat.. St. Michaels dragon adventures? Celebrations of defeating France, not religious imagery.
Quote:Granted, I have not yet seen the movie, but based on the trailer, I think it is a classic example of STS fearmongering. The trailer doesn't show much in the way of redeeming value!I agree!!! Well, the special effects could be special... But you'd probably have to put them in random order to appreciate them without getting sick to the stomach.
Quote:(09-16-2009, 08:51 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: ...site of the final battle between good and evil. Presumably Islam and the judeo christian alliance. We've probably all heard that there is a group who believes they can make the end of times come true by reenacting parts of the bible.
I personally don't subscribe to biblical prophecy, and I find those groups who are trying to orchestrate events to artificially bring about armageddon to be essentially STS-based...manipulation of world events, creating chaos and violence, all to fulfill some prophecy from an ancient book? That is imposing their beliefs onto others, big time! What about those who don't believe in their prophecies? And how are these prophecies any different from, say, the latest New Age guru predicting a certain event on a certain date?
They're all just possibilities in the possibility/probability vortex, after all. And I tend to disregard those that are fear-based.
I don't subscribe to these ideas either. A little over 10 years ago I believed this was pretty much what was going to happen. I know the mindset, I know the related prophecies and references. This movie is from that angle.. And I guarantee there are people attempting to make this come true.
And yeah... They have already failed. We've stepped into another timeline around 2000. And probably a few more time since then. Things started to change around that time. From what I hear mankind took an unexpected evolutionary jump.
The script for this movie was ready around 2008. Before the south Ossetian crisis. Which according to some was the breaking point for this armageddon scenario. Israel is still trying to pull Iran into a conflict, but with America's new found more muslim friendly voice they're going to find it much harder to get anyone to respond.
So we seem to have left this timeline, just like Quo stated. I didn't know he stated this... But I very much felt the same since around 2000. When all is said and done, we'll have tons of apocalyptic prophecies and literature. And we'll all be sipping margarita's on some Mexican beach. only nipping off for lunch in Paris.
All will be fine, there will be no armageddons or apocalypses.
However, the people making this movie certainly believe they will have their precious armageddon.