More Positive but Less Harvestable

[Tenet Nosce]

Here's how 4D positives do battle. "I love you. I accept you. I love you. I accept you" they order a retreat when they start thinking "i find it difficult to accept you. RETREAT"

Or was it:

I'M SORRY
I FORGIVE YOU
I LOVE YOU
THANK YOU

[The above was taken from a PM from Bring4th_Monica referring to the practice of Hoʻoponopono. I hope it is OK to use this without her permission. ]

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Moreover, if we really are co-creators, then 4D isn't going to just magically appear. We aren't going to go poof in an instant. As Edgar Cayce said, "You don't go to heaven; you grow to heaven!"

Would you mind reconciling your statement with this Q'uote from the in/famous 2/13 session on 2013? I am attempting to figure something out here:

Third-density Earth is nested within fourth-density Earth. It is not the same Earth as fourth-density Earth. Third-density Earth will not become fourth-density Earth, any more than first-density Earth became second-density Earth, or second-density Earth became third-density Earth. These densities are nested in such a way as to occupy the same area or influence within space/time and time/space, held lovingly by the overarching energy field of your sun.

Also I would like to revisit the next paragraph. This is a bit curious to me what Q'uo says here:

Third-density Earth is an Earth whose light is waning. While it will remain third-density, it will no longer support third-density entities in their seeking of the truth. Thusly, third density is shortly to become inactive, we would say, within three or four hundred of your years beyond 2012. Thusly, 2013 upon your planet will look very much like 2012 upon your planet. However, you will find that your population of entities grows more and more interested and fascinated with the reparation of the Earth and the healing of what you call your Mother Earth or Gaia.

It seems to me that, even three or four hundred years from now [I think I heard somewhere else 150?], then the light will go "poof" in an instant. Sooner or later will be the very last moment of 3D light.

Q'uo goes on to say:

Those who incarnate at this time upon Planet Earth, that is, after 2012, will be those whose experiences in other incarnations have carried with them an element of adhering karma because of the destruction of their Earth whether it be this Earth and the destruction of Atlantis, or Maldek, or Mars, or several other Earths that created an uninhabitable third-density planet and thusly needed to finish third density upon Planet Earth. There are quite a few millions of those who feel that desire at this time to be part of the healing of the Mother. And there is great joy in contemplating that healing.

Fourth-density Earth is an entirely different sphere, within which third density is nested. And as fourth-density light becomes that which your sun is capable of offering, that fourth-density Earth shall more and more become populated by those from third-density Earth who have graduated in a positive sense and wish to move on. It will be a long time before entities who are inhabiting third density will be able to see entities of fourth density. However, they are as real and as physical, shall we say, to themselves and to fourth-density Earth as you are to your Earth.

We realize that this is one of the less comfortable or naturally obvious concepts having to do with the concept of densities. It is natural for a person to think that this same Earth upon which your feet make footsteps shall become fourth density and that on this same Earth, fourth density shall take place. However, we would suggest to you that it is much like wanting to take your physical body with you when you pass from physical life upon this planet and hoping to drag what this instrument would call this chemical distillery of a body into fourth density and attempt to lug it around when everyone else is dancing with a much lighter and electrically driven rather than chemically driven body.

The highlights:

A. After 2012. Even still here we have a clear demarcation point. Do you imagine that this would be noticeable to any of us who are expecting it? If so, what do you suppose it would look like?

B. Healing of the Mother. I am confused here... isn't Mother Earth already vibrating happily in 4D? I also notice previously that Q'uo uses the word "reparation" which has a distinct connotation apart from "repair". Thoughts?

C. They are saying clearly that there are two separate spheres. Do you suppose there might be a period where travel back and forth between the two could be achieved?

D. It will be a long time before 3D entities will be able to see 4D entities. What? I thought the 3D entities were leaving. And I thought that learning to be invisible to 3D was a late 4D lesson. Isn't this why the 3D sphere needs to go "poof" before 4D can get going in full swing?

E. They less "less comfortable or naturally obvious". What do you think they are talking about by these terms?

F. It seems natural for a person to think... but it isn't at all true. What does this say for "creating our own reality" with respect to this experience?

G. Q'uo says electrically-driven bodies in contrast to chemical which is the same as Ra said. So... if there are now 3D/4D hybrid bodies on this planet... do they require physical food? Or what? Seems like they would be able to live off of particle currents and geomagnetism, or something like that.

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[THE FOLLOWING IS NOT A REPLY TO BRING4TH_MONICA]

I am now in the process of revisiting the ideas I previously forwarded here in this thread.

If I perhaps didn't make it clear at the time... I was writing in a very "stream of consciousness" sort of fashion and at the time had massive amounts of information that I had just dumped into the system, so to speak. It wasn't intended to be taken as fact- however I can say that the post was inspired as I was putting some of these things together "in the moment" as I was writing about them.

I should also point out that I had not recently prior had a re-reading of the Ra material, and was drawing from my memory which is admittedly, not the best. It is one of the side effects of wearing a heavy veil. Please keep this in mind, and forgive me as I may make errors of memory again in the future.

Now that a full sixty days have passed, I am coming back and re-evaluating these statements in light of new experience and information.

There is one thing I want to make sure I have right though, as it seems to have led to all manner of confusion. Here when I said:

This brings us to the times of the Eighteenth Dynasty in Egypt. Around 1333 BCE, Akhenaten proclaims the first truly monistic religion which proclaims the oneness of all creation. He also proclaims the first co-regency with a woman, his wife Nefertiti. Based on my reading of the Law of One, I understand this to be the time of the Ra contact.

As recounted in the Law of One, what Ra perceived to be a loving intervention had massive unforeseen ramifications, essentially creating a Wrinkle In Time. Their communication to us is part of an attempt to reduce the distortion brought about by their intervention. Even this latest attempt in 1981 which we know as the Ra material struggles immensely with a mental inertia which tends toward a particular distortion.

Firstly, I see that I had said "the" Ra contact, rather than "a" Ra contact. My apologies.

That aside, I was basically recapitulating my understanding of this quote:

Ra: In the Eighteenth Dynasty, as it is known in your records of space/time distortions, we were able to contact a pharaoh, as you would call him. The man was small in life-experience on your plane and was a… what this instrument would call, Wanderer. Thus, this mind/body/spirit complex received our communication distortions and was able to blend his distortions with our own. This young entity had been given a vibratory complex of sound which vibrated in honor of a prosperous god, as this mind/body complex, which we call instrument for convenience, would call “Ammon.” The entity decided that this name, being in honor of one among many gods, was not acceptable for inclusion in his vibratory sound complex. Thus, he changed his name to one which honored the sun disc. This distortion, called “Aten,” was a close distortion to our reality as we understand our own nature of mind/body/spirit complex distortion. However, it does not come totally into alignment with the intended teach/learning which was sent. This entity, Ikhnaton, became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the Law of One.

However, this entity’s beliefs were accepted by very few. His priests gave lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. The peoples continued in their beliefs. When this entity was no longer in this density, again the polarized beliefs in the many gods came into their own and continued so until the one known as Muhammed delivered the peoples into a more intelligible distortion of mind/body/spirit relationships.

However... I just want to make squeaky sure that I have the timing of this contact correct. Ahkenaten was pharaoh in approximately 1300 BC, which is approximately 3300 years ago, as according to the corrected date as given here:

Ra: I am Ra. I greet you in the love and in the light of the Infinite Creator.

Before we communicate by answer we shall correct an error which we have discovered in the transmission of our information to you. We have difficulty dealing with your time/space. There may again be errors of this type. Feel free to question us that we may recalculate in your time/space measurements.

The error we have discovered concerns one of the arrivals of both the Orion group into your planetary sphere of influence and the corresponding arrival of emissaries of the Confederation. We gave dates of 2,600 years for the Orion entry, 2,300 for Confederation entry. This is incorrect. The recalculation indicates numbers 3,600 for Orion entry, 3,300 for Confederation entry.

This is 3,300 years ago, meaning 1300 BC, meaning the time of Ra contact with Akhenaten. Is this correct?

I would also like to offer this quote with respect to dates and other numbers in the material. I think this is important to keep in mind:

Therefore, we have the most difficulty sharing numerical concepts with you and take this opportunity to repeat our request that you monitor our numbers and query any that seem questionable.

Notable is that Ra asked L/L to monitor their numbers. Now why would they ask this if there were no possibility of an error going uncorrected?