09-08-2011, 12:53 PM
(09-08-2011, 11:44 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I saw the soul of appetite, etc, but didn't make the connection to body, mind, and spirit. I don't have time to read that book now. Does it link the first seven cards to mind, the second to body, and the third to spirit?
You don't need to read the entire book, just the section that I linked for you consisting of four paragraphs. It is kind of amusing that you would specifically ask for a reference, and then declare that you have no time to read it.
βαθμιαίος Wrote:Other unique (to my knowledge) aspects of Ra's discussion of the archetypes are the notions of matrix, potentiator, etc and the suggestion that cards 1, 8, and 15; 2, 9, and 16; etc. are linked in an architectural way.
I'm not sure off the top of my head if that exact terminology was previously used to describe the three tiers. According to comte de Mellet, they are equated to the three historical ages: gold, silver, iron. But yes, in terms of specifically linking (I, VIII, XV), (II, IX, XVI), etc. this was already well-established in the occult circles well before the Ra contact in 1981.
βαθμιαίος Wrote:It's a stretch in that it's not necessary. As a wanderer, Carla was already a target.
So... Carla is a wanderer... meaning that she has previously graduated from the 3D cycle of time... moved on to 4D or 5D as the case may be, CAME BACK to this 3D reality "from the future" in order to provide a specific form of service- namely channeling information from an entity that is largely responsible for the creation of the entire human race, as we know it....
BUT... it would not be "necessary" for a negative being, in seeing that Carla was the one who chose to channel Ra, to scan backwards in time for additional windows of attack that could cause "future" depolarization? I really am not following your thought process here. We seem to have very different understandings of how higher order negative beings operate.
(09-08-2011, 10:58 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Pass from outside the circle to inside it.
Right, got it. Now what about the mental/emotional state of the entities already inside the circle? Also, I would suggest to attempt to wrap your mind around what a "circle" means to a 5D entity.
βαθμιαίος Wrote:The phrase used in the ritual was "Let no thought-form enter the circle we have walked about this instrument, for the Law is One."
So the entire basis for believing that the ritual was 100% effective, is simply this sentence? I mean 100% effective against negative interference, not 100% effective of an overt takeover of Carla's body, as I previously replied. In other words, do you believe that a negative entity "outside" the circle could have no effect, whatsoever, on what is going on "inside" the circle?
βαθμιαίος Wrote:I'm not disagreeing that Carla came under psychic attack when she was thirteen. I don't think the reason she came under attack was necessarily that she was going to be the channel for the Ra contact 25 years later.
Not necessarily, but why not? Also what is the barrier to a 5D entity, once having observed Carla channeling Ra in 1981, to have scanned backwards in time and make an attempt to "take her out" earlier in the game? Even if such an attempt failed, it could still have left a strong imprint of fear and doubt, which was later capitalized upon during the Ra contact.
This sounds like exactly the thought process of a negative 5D entity to me.
βαθμιαίος Wrote:That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the attack on Carla in session 62 was an attack by an external source and occurred when she was not present in her body. It was made possible by a misstep in the walking of the circle. You had said that the ritual was only effective to the extent that it reduced Carla's fear and was acceptable to her subconscious. I don't think that's the case.
What I am attempting to say is that, if the Upanishads were used instead of the Bible, and if one of Rumi's poems was used instead of the prayer of St. Francis, they would have worked just as well, if such symbols were acceptable to Carla's subconscious.