Harvest as Salvation

[3DMonkey]

But then what is the point of all of this? If this is all just inward manipulation, I see it as no more than spiritual and intellectual masturbation... Such is why I have participated less in these debates. I don't feel as if anything positive is being pulled out of these debates anymore; it's become stale because all that is left to discuss is ego.

I understand and respect everyone's decision and ability to "keep it real". I just figured that a place such as this might better understand that what is 'real' is purely perception. When we perceive hopelessness and the same ole' same ole', we give power to it.

there are those who are doing mental and spiritual masturbation. and there are those who have actually practiced what they preach, up to this point in their lives and adamant in doing so into the future. and there are those who only practice what they preach as long as it doesnt disturb their conformism, or biases.

all the discussions you speak of, stem from these. its not like people who are actually putting what they say into practice are stopping doing that because they are discussing things.

This is funny because unity100 is the single member of the forum that I find to be disingenuous.