haha I do not doubt the use or need for the forum, I suppose I just wonder what the point of any sort of enlightenment is if it does not affect the outside world? It's like finding a treasure trove of gold but then hiding every bit of it away; if the transformation cannot happen outwardly, what's the point of the transformation inwardly? A life in which my "inside life" only matters does not make sense to me. There is something missing here if we are not thinking as a whole as well as individuals. (unity) <-- haha i mean unity, not unity100 