09-06-2011, 11:51 AM
(09-06-2011, 05:56 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: WOW, Icaro! Very intriguing analysis. I just spent the last 2 hours studying this thread, following every reference, looking up every quote, flipping back and forth between sessions, and my head is spinning!
Unity100: I understand your point about someone using this logic to selectively accept or ignore passages they like/don't like. Christians argue about this all the time: They cannot accept their entire book in its entirety because of all the contradictions, so they 'pick and choose' and then argue because they 'pick and choose' different scriptures than others do. They also argue about whether to take the Bible literally or not. And here we are, doing the same thing with the Law of One!
I don't think Ra intended for the material to be considered a literal, infallible 'Bible'.
For what it's worth, the Christians I know whom I consider to have deep understanding of higher truths, despite their book's obvious contradictions, are those who are able to bend their book into something congruent, rather than taking it literally. Deeper understanding doesn't happen by memorizing data, but by internalizing concepts.
Is our book really so different? We like to think it has less distortion than the religious book, because we know the religious book was tainted. And yet, we also know that negative greeting occurred during the transmission of our book.
Does this mean it's unreliable? No, not at all. Quite the contrary. It's reliable. Just not in the way we might have thought.
Supposedly, high school students are expected to memorize facts by rote, whereas college students are expected to think outside the box.
We are college students. The stakes have just been raised, thanks to Icaro's discoveries.
Thus, I think the process of pondering Icaro's theories may have great value. The tipping point for me was the part about Ra correcting an error that hadn't happened yet. That is mind-blowing!
As Christian pastors often say, "It must be taken in the proper context...1 scripture cannot be taken alone but must be considered with all the others."
I've often told my Christian friends that, contrary to what they've been taught, the Bible wasn't intended to be an authority, but the real test was for them to discern what was true and what was false in it. It's the process of discernment that triggers understanding, not the learning by rote. They think they're supposed to just believe it all, without any discrimination. But no, the real challenge is to discern which parts are truth and which are lies.
It is the same with the Law of One. Ra has given us a gift, that is far, far more powerful than we thought! We thought it was nearly 100% reliable at face value. But no, that would be too easy, and wouldn't stimulate much growth in us. If Icaro is correct, then what we have here is a challenge, a puzzle, and as we work to figure it out, using not only our intellect but our intuition, the potential for spiritual growth and understanding is far greater than if we just accepted it at face value.
As Icaro pointed out, there are many clues given. This is advanced stuff, way more than it appears on the surface.
I thought the Law of One was complex, like a chess game. But now, Icaro has helped me to realize that the Law of One is actually a multi-tiered chess game!
Icaro, THANK YOU!!! This is absolutely incredible! I feel a sense of excitement, as though discovering the Law of One for the very first time! I now feel a compulsion to begin studying it anew, looking not only for dry facts, but allegorical references, clues, puzzles, and other exciting things just waiting to be discovered! The Law of One has just come alive! I feel as though I was seeing in black-and-white before, and you just showed us that there's color! Seriously, it's that profound!
Not only that, but another, much more important concept has been introduced: Rather than denying that which is fact, we are given an opportunity to create a reality according to our resonance. I see how this looks like denial. But denial implies a set, fixed reality. I wouldn't want to live in such a reality as that. Rather, we live in a reality that is permeable, changeable, much like the holodeck on Star Trek, or the world in The Matrix. Some of us have seen the code.
I highly recommend, for anyone interested in understanding time and the present moment, The Education of Oversoul Seven Trilogy by Jane Roberts. It's the best explanation of time that I've ever read.
Again, Icaro, you've done a stupendous job! You've opened the door to much pondering. My head is still spinning!
i dont know what you are trying to express above.
this is not 'fallibility of the material'. it is hypocrisy in its grandest form.
the thing he bases all this stuff on is a quote about yahweh, and he shows his omission as 'negative influence affecting publishing of the material'. then he proceeds to invalidate the quotes he doesnt like with that.
what is self-betraying is that, when queried about moses and his doings, he instantly divines the purity of the questioner (as if everything is tied to questioner in a channeling work) and then says channel was not negatively influenced at that point.
but negative influence was effective about the very quote regarding yahweh he is basing his assumptions on !?!?!? the very assumption of negative influence is based on a quote about yahweh, but no other quote about yahweh or moses or jews are affected by negative influence ? why ? 'because the questioner was pure ENOUGH'.
that 'enough' there, evaluates to 'enough to invalidate only quotes i dont like'.
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this is selective ignoring of the information. there is nothing else to it, and there is nothing commendable about it. if there wasnt hypocrisy, you could come up and say that this is the persons belief, or perspective. but, there is hypocritical application of the very base one puts his feet on too. when something like that is there, it turns to something that is akin to a priest back in middle ages preaching 'turn your other cheek' to the flock, but sending them to crusade to cut down 'infidels'. selective application of principles, nothing less.
with that, i can invalidate ANY quote in the material i dont like. all i need to do is to tell that the 'transitory' status of the question being asked is high enough. (totally, totally subjective measurement by the way). and if someone queries why another question of the SAME kind is not affected, i just say that the purity of the questioner was high enough at that point.
sorry, there is nothing that can be taken seriously here.