09-01-2011, 06:56 PM
(09-01-2011, 02:05 PM)Icaro Wrote:(09-01-2011, 01:33 PM)unity100 Wrote: all is well and ok but Ra was talking based on the perception and definition of time as it is known at large in our population.Well I'm glad we made some headway, and I understand your point on metaphor and it's differentiation as to the mechanics of harvest. Can you understand the communication process of trying to explain understandings to be fruitless a lot of the time? I rarely ever argue over peoples understandings on specific details. Because usually they're saying what they mean incorrectly, saying it in a different way that another misses the point entirely, or they simply aren't seeing what you see.
My complex explanation above clearly outlines how I fully understand the concepts of space/time and time/space, yet a few pages ago when pressed and flustered, I was unable to articulate it. Which is what I was saying earlier about accepting misunderstanding, and why we should reserve judgement.
i would like to mention that none of what you have metaphorized in that post, changes mechanics of the harvest. for example being placed into violet body upon death, an entity may be at a timeless state. but, it wont change the fact that in the 3d continuum it just left, he would have died.
(09-01-2011, 05:59 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: So there seems to be some kind of disconnect going on when somebody wants to sum up the whole of the Ra material as a simple admonition to "live in the moment" and yet wants to relegate the majority of the content to "things we cannot understand in the moment".
precisely. if things were meant to be loaded into metaphors, and entities used their 'intuition' to get knowledge and wisdom, there would not be need for any such kind of work at all.
same people are, for some reason, studying energy centers, meditation etc given in the material. they are not metaphorizing these, or loading them with intuitive meanings and leaving them as their psyche prefers them. that is hypocrisy.
if one wants to learn, one needs to be open to information in all respects and regards. studying advanced information that was meant to be advanced information for people seeking advanced information to learn. when met with uncomfortable things, dodging with 'intuition' and ''metaphor' is contradictory for such seekers.
Quote:If the whole point is to BE HERE NOW, then every last word in the Ra material should be something that we can understand in our current state.
yes. there would be no point to all that information to be given in this state if we could not understand it.