08-31-2011, 09:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-31-2011, 09:22 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
(08-31-2011, 07:37 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: abridgetoofar, perhaps I am just really dense. Can you please comment directly on the following two passages? Then I will respond to your last post.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration
Is this true, or not? Was earth in fourth-dimension vibration as of 1981?
Well yeah, but that doesn't mean we're living in a 4D reality. The rest of that statement: "Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience."
Meaning that just because it exists in fourth-dimension vibration, doesn't mean the plane we experience is 4D. In regards to the topic we were discussing, specifically the "material" of the planet changing from 3D to 4D, Ra says here it is confused, and in other questions he defines its transition from 3D to 4D.
Quote:Quote:Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?
Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.
Am I to understand that you consider Ra's failure to respond to the "or will it be spread out?" portion of the query a simple oversight?
I don't "consider" it anything, I don't think they failed to respond. I consider the idea that "harvest" will occur then in its most significant fashion, the harvesting of entities not incarnated (probably a majority of the entities here), and if it doesn't immediately effect incarnated entities, it will be available to them as they die, naturally or otherwise.
(08-31-2011, 08:55 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Now here's a classic!
51.1 Wrote:Questioner: As we begin Book Three of The Law of One there are a couple of questions of fairly non-transient importance that I have and one that I consider to be of a transient nature that I feel obligated to ask.
The first is clearing up the final point about harvest. I was wondering if there is a supervision over the harvest and if so, why this supervision is necessary and how it works since an entity’s harvestability is determined by the violet ray? Is it necessary for entities to supervise the harvest, or is it automatic?
Ra: I am Ra. In time of harvest there are always harvesters. The fruit is formed as it will be, but there is some supervision necessary to ensure that this bounty is placed as it should be without the bruise or the blemish.
If it all just passes quite unnoticeable and without discomfort, then why the concern about "bruises or blemishes"? If life just goes on as before, no big deal, why the need for supervision?
Obviously won't be unnoticeable in time/space, as one is being harvested. An entity being harvested in time/space may be confused and need supervision. This doesn't have to apply to incarnated entities in space/time...
Quote:Quote:The second class of those who ward this process are those of the Confederation who have the honor/duty of standing in the small places at the edge of the steps of light/love so that those entities being harvested will not, no matter how confused or unable to make contact with their Higher Self, stumble and fall away for any reason other than the strength of the light. These Confederation entities catch those who stumble and set them aright so that they may continue into the light.
Ah, yes, the Confederation has come to make sure that those harvested will not stumble or become confused... as they return back to the normal everyday world, living out their life and dying naturally.
No, they will continue on into the incarnation they need. If it's a 3D incarnation, they'll go to another 3D planet. If it's a 4D incarnation, they'll incarnate here into a dual body until 4D bodies are formed. Maybe not immediately...they may wait for an appropriate time. The entities in space/time may not feel any effect of harvest until they die.
Quote:Quote:Thus the harvest is automatic in that those harvested will respond according to that which is unchangeable during harvest. That is the violet ray emanation. However, these helpers are around to ensure a proper harvesting so that each entity may have the fullest opportunity to express its violet ray selfhood.
How does each entity harvested have the fullest opportunity to express its violet ray selfhood if tossed right back into the fray of every day 3D living?
It happens after they die....
(08-31-2011, 08:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:Right, I just assume that since harvest is near, and the Earth is spiralling into 4D vibes and out of 3D vibes (although sustaining the 3D vibes through thoughtforms, etc), a 3D incarnation would not be appropriate. The dual-bodies will "purge" the 3D thoughtforms and vibrations to create a 4D society. It's a likely way I see the 100-700 year transition going.(08-31-2011, 08:37 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:Understandable, but it's not clear that there are only a few years of 3D vibes from logos left. A substantial amount of the 'logos', with regards to earth, is the sublogos of earth+inhabitants. The transitional bodies will continue developing for centuries perhaps, with 3D vibes supporting their makeup.(08-31-2011, 08:17 PM)zenmaster Wrote: My understanding is that the 'cut off point' for sufficient yellow-ray catalyst is probably 2011-2012, after which time only transitional entities (harvested) will be born.What I meant was this cutoff date already arrived, and it is an assumption, because I don't see why a 3D entity would incarnate with only a few years of 3D vibes from the Logos left.
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