Waking up "out of body"

[zenmaster]

As far as I can tell, they are the same thing. That is, the integrated or more holistic worldview means duality is able to be recognized as such from the standpoint of 'having been there', having more conscious connection to time/space. This evolutionary process (integration) does tend to follow polarization, because mind, through its acceptance of 'what is' (microcosm and/or macrocosm) is making more 'space' for spirit. Another term for 'what is' is 'logos'.

I just find it peculiar that someone who is already awakened and that has come into balance would be afraid at night, unless you're saying they are able to feel the negativity, or recognize it as you say. How could an adept for instance ever overcome the feeling if they've already accepted the deeper levels of duality? I imagine it would require the acceptance that one ultimately can't be hurt.

By initiation, I mean beginning to become 'responsible' for thoughts. It's like a phase of maturity. Balance requires working with opposites, and this is not achieved until long into initiation. Resolving idea-based fear, and fear of unconscious complexes leaking out at night is like a milepost for a certain degree of acceptance. You begin to learn what is 'you' and what isn't 'you'.