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In time/space, but not in space/time. "63.25. At this nexus the green-ray environment exists to a far greater extent in time/space than in space/time"

incorrect - you are missing in between the lines :

its not 'in time space, NOT in space/time', but, it is 'FAR greater extent in time/space THAN in space/time'.

this means, at that point in time, 4d sphere existed BOTH in time/space and space/time, but to a far greater extent in time/space than it existed in space/time.

it means, even in 1981, 4d space/time still existed, even if much scarcer than time/space.

Do you think this has already happened? Also, here Ra explains how long it will take 4D to become a full reality in space/time, which is probably when the 4D bodies will finish evolving:

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?
Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

you cannot tie transition with evolution of 4d bodies with exactness. what was said that 3d climate of planetary consciousness retarding the process of 4d work. it can be interpreted as when transition is over, there wont be any retardation.

even when transition is complete, 3d thought forms and artifacts will still remain, we are told. these are included in retardation that 3d causes.

Harvest and the transition to 4D (Earth and bodies) are very different. This is something Unity points out very often. The transition to 4D is not the act of harvest. It happens at the same time and necessecitates harvest, but "harvest" is the opening of the gateway to intelligent infinity, and the transition to 4D is something that happens with it. "Harvest" will not be the entire transitional period. It will be at the beginning of the transition, and the harvested entities will complete the transition of 3D Earth to 4D.

lets sharpen it out into precision :

harvest is not related to any kind of transition. it happens without there being any transition.

transition is the situation of a society on a planet adopting into 4d, in body, and in society. or, a 4d society apart from an existing 3d society forming in 4d sphere. this does not need to begin with harvest - if earth society was a more positively oriented harmonious society, the transition and adaptation would already have started with the planet moving into 4d vibrations in 1937. or, if we go as far to say that 3d bodies should not at all do that due to free will and other concerns, at least 3-4d body entities should have been incarnating by then and started creation of 4d bodies.

at this point we can only venture off to say that before the final harvest is not completed and the planet is not determined to be a positive or negative planet, such work cannot be made.

that would not hold true - even before harvest is completed, positive 4d entities were incarnating on this planet into 3-4d bodies. so, what is necessary for any transition to begin is what kind of planet the planet will be in 4d, and maybe availability of green vibrations. (for providing 3-4d bodies with 4d vibrations).

Not sure what you mean. It's safe to say that no children being born right now are in strictly 3D bodies, meaning they all have transitional bodies, meaning they're all harvested 4D entities (from other spheres).

that is an incorrect conclusion in many ways. you cannot put an unharvested entity in a body which can perceive 4d, and also make use of intelligent infinity in ways 3d entities cant.

it not only would override the free will of other entities (even if the inborn 3d entity is a baby yet) in a myriad of ways, but also would cause jeopardy in regard to the overall violet balance and mental stability of the 3d entity due to being able to perceive a density/vibration it is not ready for it yet.

if you look at the act of harvest happening in time space, you will see that it is basically the determination of the violet balance of entity in respect to 4d conditions. if you are deemed placeable in a 4d nexus by your violet balance being able to provide for it, you are harvested.

what you propose, basically totally misses that important information. there would be no need for a harvest if you could just plug a 3d entity in a 3-4d body or a 4d body and subject it to 4d conditions and vibrations.

im totally leaving out the fact that in Ra material it is nowhere even hinted that entities other than already harvested ones being born in 3-4d bodies. not even wanderers were told to be born with these bodies, and actually to the contrary - it is told that wanderers accepted 3d limitations of a body in order to not infringe upon free will and maybe activate higher density bodies and live like gods. this would not change just prior to harvest - the principle of infringement would still stay there.

in conclusion - all entities are not being born with 3-4d bodies. it tramples a lot of important information ranging from free will infringement principle to spiritual basics like violet balance. (which is actually what defines the progression of an entity).

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17.29 Wrote:Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

Am I to understand that you consider Ra's failure to respond to the "or will it be spread out?" portion of the query a simple oversight?

they did not just 'not respond to will it be spread out portion of the query' -> they elaborated on THAT date. ' ....not incarnation at this time ......'.