(09-03-2009, 02:24 PM)Quantum Wrote: It is to the Council specifically that we are speaking to, not a subset of it. Thus the Council is not beyond polarity.
I disagree. Who decided that we were speaking of the Council as a whole as opposed to a subset of it? If the subset meets the criteria of the point being made, which it surely does, then why must that be discarded in favor of some unspoken rule?
Just what is it we are 'speaking to?' Are we trying to establish some definitions, some rules, some doctrine?
On the contrary. My initial statement that the Council was 'beyond polarity' was in reference to the speculation that they might have granted permission for some STS or mixed-polarity material to be passed. In that context, my assertion was correct. While portions of the Council are not beyond polarity, other portions are beyond polarity; thus, the possibility remains.
I think it's rather presumptuous for us mere 3D (Wanderers or not) entities to try to define or compartmentalize multiple social memory complexes residing in densities far above our own. Evolution thru a single density takes millions of our years! How, then, could we possibly even begin to catagorize the assigned tasks and responsibilities of, say, 4D Council complexes vs 6D Council complexes?
I'd rather not get caught up in semantics, but attempt to reach out in understanding of the concepts and ideas being offered for consideration.
(09-03-2009, 02:24 PM)Quantum Wrote: It seems indeed that it is an oxymoron for STO to offer STS assistance as much as it would be for STS to offer STO assistance.
Respectfully, Q, you have misunderstood my point. I never suggested that an STO would offer assistance to an STS. Rather, I suggested, as a possibility, that the 6D portions of the Council, who are beyond polarity, serve both STS and STO lower densities.
(09-03-2009, 02:24 PM)Quantum Wrote: In any event, it stands to reason that the subset Council consisting of the subset you address of mid sixth density and beyond, being beyond polarity, would be beyond polarity considerations.
By 'considerations' do you mean considerations of themselves, or do you mean that they ignore the polarity of their lower-density brethren?
If the latter, then that is in agreement with my point: That they might grant permission irrespective of the polarity of the entity seeking permission.
Of course, this is presupposing that those portions of the Council are of mid-6th or above. Which, as I stated before, is pure speculation. As far as I know, Ra has never specified precisely which portions of the Council have the honor of performing the task of granting permission. Perhaps it is those of 4 or 5D or even lower 6D, in which case my theory would, presumably, be incorrect. However, there is still the issue of the implicit permission granted to STS entities, by the design of a quarantine with holes. Therefore, I don't find it implausible to speculate that the Council, or at least the higher density portions of the Council, serves all, irrespective of polarity. In which case, STS calls must be answered as well.
Even Ra, though biased in service to STO, recognizes the value of the STS polarity. No judgment is made. Ra/Q'uo have stated that they provide service to STO. But that doesn't necessarily preclude the possibility that certain portions of the Council might not have the task of honoring all requests, provided they are within quarantine and First Distortion guidelines.