I think ultimately the harvest is a metaphor of living in the present moment. Ra has said that third density is not necessary. They also say the choice is the axis upon which the creation turns.
The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is greatly lengthened, as you would use the term.
And that answer was in response to Don saying that in reality, third density "is nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time and is for the purpose of this choice." "This is precisely correct", Ra says.
Third density is an illusion in terms of creating an experience where the choice is made. So when pressed for an answer, Ra can point to a time in the illusion that the harvest begins. But in reality, it is a useless observation if this is an illusion merely for walking through a gate to the present. There is both a 'time' when the harvest happens so to speak, as in Ra can definitely point to a 'time', but in this illusion during this incarnation as the harvest occurs, we continue to go about our business. The harvest is a timeless choice because there is always, and ever only, the present moment. If you don't make that choice, what do you do? Continue once again to play in another illusion. We've already been harvested. That is the greater understanding, and Ra possibly intends those conclusions to be made. What happened to 150 entities or Hitler's friends has nothing to do with now, and when pressed for an answer, Ra will give you an arbitrary number that is meaningless to what is an abstract timeless concept.
You have someone like Wilcock who is reaching masses of people, citing the Law of One and its prophecy of ascension coming right around the corner and they swallow it whole. Ra could have seen this mess that is created by debating when the harvest would happen, and if it involves immediate death. Are we to believe that Ra really would intend their words to be distorted (in fact I think they said their words nevertheless would be), and violate the free will of others in one of the most significant ways possible by telling people when they're going to die? Or is there enough subjectivity laced within the material overall that allows the seeker to make conclusions beyond what is simply stated? I'm more inclined to believe the latter, and in this way they preserve free will.
When I think about the point in which I changed my viewpoint on how the harvest may be soon which involves death, it was when I simply came to a greater understanding of what it means to live in the present. Before, there must have been some unconscious desire to have an answer simply to make sense of things. I realized I was living in the future. It had nothing to do with the fear of death..I obliterated my ego years ago. The moment you invoke thoughts on knowing your future you are no longer living in the present. I can no longer believe to know the preciseness of my fate, any more than I know what will happen tomorrow. So I am only able to focus on the present and the rest is just hearsay..unimportant.
17.2 ..Enlightenment is, of the moment, an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?
Ra may be hinting at thoughts to consider in the above, and I think it is also why they say the harvest is now. The harvest isn't tomorrow because it never can be. Third density is an illusion of choice. There is only the present. I'm most inclined to say our lives play out in this illusion while the harvest occurs, as if through illusion, it is happening at that specific 'time', and when we enter time/space, we'll be harvested. Or maybe it will happen tomorrow while we are here incarnate? Above all, I do not know the answer. It's meaningless to consider really.
In reality, we've already made the choice, we've already been harvested in all densities, and we've already turned back towards the creator. Thinking you know when the harvest will occur is to have missed the point entirely. I see the Law of One as a having certain peculiarities which allow for further seeking to take place. There's no reason why Ra would give us definite answers to the deeper mysteries.
The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is greatly lengthened, as you would use the term.
And that answer was in response to Don saying that in reality, third density "is nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time and is for the purpose of this choice." "This is precisely correct", Ra says.
Third density is an illusion in terms of creating an experience where the choice is made. So when pressed for an answer, Ra can point to a time in the illusion that the harvest begins. But in reality, it is a useless observation if this is an illusion merely for walking through a gate to the present. There is both a 'time' when the harvest happens so to speak, as in Ra can definitely point to a 'time', but in this illusion during this incarnation as the harvest occurs, we continue to go about our business. The harvest is a timeless choice because there is always, and ever only, the present moment. If you don't make that choice, what do you do? Continue once again to play in another illusion. We've already been harvested. That is the greater understanding, and Ra possibly intends those conclusions to be made. What happened to 150 entities or Hitler's friends has nothing to do with now, and when pressed for an answer, Ra will give you an arbitrary number that is meaningless to what is an abstract timeless concept.
You have someone like Wilcock who is reaching masses of people, citing the Law of One and its prophecy of ascension coming right around the corner and they swallow it whole. Ra could have seen this mess that is created by debating when the harvest would happen, and if it involves immediate death. Are we to believe that Ra really would intend their words to be distorted (in fact I think they said their words nevertheless would be), and violate the free will of others in one of the most significant ways possible by telling people when they're going to die? Or is there enough subjectivity laced within the material overall that allows the seeker to make conclusions beyond what is simply stated? I'm more inclined to believe the latter, and in this way they preserve free will.
When I think about the point in which I changed my viewpoint on how the harvest may be soon which involves death, it was when I simply came to a greater understanding of what it means to live in the present. Before, there must have been some unconscious desire to have an answer simply to make sense of things. I realized I was living in the future. It had nothing to do with the fear of death..I obliterated my ego years ago. The moment you invoke thoughts on knowing your future you are no longer living in the present. I can no longer believe to know the preciseness of my fate, any more than I know what will happen tomorrow. So I am only able to focus on the present and the rest is just hearsay..unimportant.
17.2 ..Enlightenment is, of the moment, an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?
Ra may be hinting at thoughts to consider in the above, and I think it is also why they say the harvest is now. The harvest isn't tomorrow because it never can be. Third density is an illusion of choice. There is only the present. I'm most inclined to say our lives play out in this illusion while the harvest occurs, as if through illusion, it is happening at that specific 'time', and when we enter time/space, we'll be harvested. Or maybe it will happen tomorrow while we are here incarnate? Above all, I do not know the answer. It's meaningless to consider really.
In reality, we've already made the choice, we've already been harvested in all densities, and we've already turned back towards the creator. Thinking you know when the harvest will occur is to have missed the point entirely. I see the Law of One as a having certain peculiarities which allow for further seeking to take place. There's no reason why Ra would give us definite answers to the deeper mysteries.