08-30-2011, 02:44 PM
(08-30-2011, 02:00 PM)Icaro Wrote:Quote:this bodes rather important conclusions for gradualist proposals, since it is said that 'all entities are harvested regardless of progress at the end of last cycle', and the two entities named from third reich were still waiting for harvest for their harvestability to be gauged during harvest. (because they apparently didnt attain intelligent infinity contact during incarnation - if they did, they would immediately leave the planet as other negatives do - which was told as a thumb rule for self-harvests of negative nature By the way).
That's a good catch, but I'm not sure we can conclude that ultimately everyone must die at the point of harvest. We have no idea as to the period of time that the gateway remains opens. An educated guess would be that it would open for 900 years, relative to the portion of intelligent energy which created the life-span duration for this locality. Interestingly enough it was stated that at max, the full 4d transition would take 700 years, and that they couldn't accurately conclude on that measurement. I will say though that those two waiting for harvest concedes my argument that the harvest possibly started in the 30's.
first, the descriptions of entites named as 'harvested' and 'harvestable' mean that the word harvest is not only used as an indication of status. but it seems to involve death and replacement in a 4d time/space too. the word usage while describing the 150 entities of 2nd density, and the negative harvested ones, and the examples of those negatives named as harvested make that out.
harvestable, as opposed to harvested, seems to mean having successfully contacted intelligent infinity in incarnation, or seen as likely to pass harvest due to their violet ray balance in a violet ray check.
it seems the term 'harvested', involves death and replacement in a 4d experience.
aaand then i am baffled in how you were able this time up your ante to a whopping 900 years. not to mention you have made harvest equal to a portion of intelligent infinity.
there is no need to worry or rush to help a planet fearing a small harvest, if harvest continues for a whopping 900 years. its 900 years. 900 years ago, this planet was in high middle ages, and people were poking each other with metal sharp implements and being happy with it. in 900 years under the presence of a gate of intelligent infinity, infinite amounts of things can be done. not to mention, experience was told to be compressed in 3d, and 900 years is actually much longer in regard to experiential density in 3d than anywhere else.
and, ra, in all their desire for precision, wouldnt make a stupid mistake of saying something that would last 900 years, as 'to happen in 2011'. first, you had tried the possibility of harvest already happening since 1937s, and when it didnt avail, you have this time gone all out and this time upped it to a whopping years without reason. how something can 'happen in 2011' if it is to last 900 years, flies in the face of reality.
at this point i have to conclude that you have a need to have time, for any reason, and therefore going to extreme lengths to protect that viewpoint. tho i hope that whatever you need time for, happens in appropriate time until the harvest completes, i have to say your continual dwelling on these mind boggling time periods and equating harvest with transitions (and then adding some 200 years on top of the worst case too) after all these pointers and information regard to harvest, is only possible by totally ignoring what is explicitly told in the material you are relying on. according to the material, you are incorrect. harvest, was told as going to happen in 2011. not start in 2011 and last. the possibility of harvest lasting a whopping 900 years, and Ra not mentioning it, despite all the specific questions don asked about it are nil. none. nada. zero.
don asked whether harvest was going to be spread out over a period of time, or happen as an event. the answer was it was going to happen at 2011. it doesnt matter if it happens at 2012, or could have happened at 2010. what matters is, the response to harvest being an event that is spread out, is negatory.
at this point i am in the opinion that we discussed this matter with you enough. i wont be continuing discussing this with you, at the cost of reiterating same things over and over and you ignoring them over and over. thank you for your discussion. if you bring something different than totally ignoring what is explicitly mentioned as information in this material, or something not in the form of 'yes, ra said this, but despite they said this, maybe they meant totally the opposite', i will reply.