08-30-2011, 01:59 PM
(08-30-2011, 11:45 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(08-30-2011, 11:00 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Frankly, the more I study the LOO, the more it becomes abstract with very little literal information.
3DMonkey, have you considered the possibility that your mental insistence on the most mundane possible explanation might be related to why you never have any really cool paranormal experiences?
3DMonkey Wrote:Anyway, I'm jealous. I've experienced nothing like any of this. Zilch.
Just sayin'...
Actually, yes, I have considered it. The truth is I have come to the conclusion from the opposite end of the funnel that you suggest. It has been, from my inception, to "insist", as you say, that the paranormal explanation be the most possible explanation. Over time, over experiences, over studying, I am currently coming to the conclusion that all of "this" is based solely on my condition of being a human... even the explanations of what "this" is are derived from this condition.
(08-30-2011, 11:45 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:I will look with an open mind when I get a chance. What I notice will be what I notice though3DMonkey Wrote:"kind of opening" is an entirely abstract idea.
The "opening" or the "gate" is inside you. Just like everything else of this nature, if the entity lacks sufficient awareness then when the gate opens, they may hallucinate an external gate or portal to pass through- or whatever other perceived scenario is acceptable to their consciousness.
This is the "subjective" portion of the event that I think some people keep referring to. But that doesn't mean that there isn't an actual, literal, physical and energetic change that occurring that would be consistently observed by an onlooker watching the whole thing go down from afar with the proper state of consciousness and scientific framework from which to interpret events.
I don't want to bombard this thread with a bunch of scientific article links, but here are a handful of them each with a little piece of how something like this could even be possible. Notice how this is all coming out now, at the last minute:
New depiction of light could boost telecommunications channels
Can Our DNA Electromagnetically 'Teleport' Itself?
DNA Strands That Select Nanotubes Are First Step to a Practical 'Quantum Wire'
DNA can discern between two quantum states, research shows
This is just a -smattering- of what has been coming out this year. If anybody is interested, they can look for themselves.
But anyway, I have a sneaking suspicion that 3DM will maintain plausible deniability no matter what I put here.
(08-30-2011, 11:45 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Here is something to consider. If all of this metaphysical stuff is just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, meant to be interpreted allegorically and figuratively, then how did any of us get here???
How does an entity physically arrive in a 3D body? How does an entity physically leave a 3D body?
We may not know the exact answers to these questions, but what we do know is that birth and death happen. Harvest appears to be a special case of the latter.
These are the questions that have created this perception of our global collective and these discussions. The best answers are those found in the LOO. The answers found speak to our current abilities to comprehend. These answers are heard more loudly than anything in the past because they are the most current representation of what our "condition" creates. Trying to answer these questions is what will continue us to create in the same manner. An attempt to give an answer is the practice of what we are, and therefore there isn't a definitive answer... only exploration of the question. "Harvest" is another attempt. All we know is that we are, or that we think we are, or that we are part of something larger= body, or mind, or spirit.
(08-30-2011, 11:45 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: I really don't see what is so incredulous about it.
What is incredulous to me is how anybody can sit there with a straight face and say, "Well since we have no logical explanation for [insert mysterious thing here], it must not be possible." That kind of attitude really flies in the face of reality. In a world chock full of things that would have been considered "impossible" not much more than a century ago, it just seems like an incredibly preposterous position to take.
[The above statement is not directed at anybody in particular... just "people in general" who scoff at anything that they don't perceive with their five senses.]
People scoff if they don't want to take the time to consider or to look for *____*. I, personally, think there is a logical explanation for the mysterious. I think the mysterious is something in existence even if it isn't tangible to any of the five senses. Actually, I think the mysterious is tangible, but very difficult to find the direct correlation from mystery to physical expression.
If I may, there is an unwillingness to see how these mysteries could possibly be logical if one is determined to find them unexplainable for the sake of being unexplainable. The mystery, for the most part, will remain mysterious, but I see no reason that we can't put our heads together and see how we got to the point of creating them as a mystery.