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    08-29-2011, 10:02 AM
    (08-29-2011, 12:24 AM)zenmaster Wrote: We come here, in part, to work on just those aspects of self that will result in the most over-all balance and polarization. Sometimes this can be an intensive and engaging process involving great imbalance and blockages (indicated by chakras). My point is that one doesn't necessarily get 'harvested' from 3D to 4D based on the current polarization one has achieved by working on a particular incarnative-bias lessons. Thus harvest is either based on the polarization achieved in one life (space/time), if the lessons so warrant, or the polarization achieved in collective-life-experience after death (time/space). That's what I meant by collective lives, and not a collective life review. Time/space is the 'whole view', as an analog in 3D we have the (veiled) faculties of the psyche that are based on a time/space (feeling and intuition) perspective. The information is also coming from a 'whole view' but now incumbered by a restricted unconscious (Ra says subconscious), which is enabled or supported only by what was able to be integrated or accepted in the (short) incarnation.


    (08-28-2011, 11:19 PM)unity100 Wrote: looking at this, it seems harvest is easier in time/space. maybe this is why, contact with intelligent infinity while in incarnation, is a direct ticket to next octave of experience - it is probably harder.
    This is what I was trying to explain.

    polarization being based on one life is not possible. the entity cannot be isolated from the spiritual biases it gained through its journey from 1d to 3d end. these even follow the entity not only to after death, but to even other 3d planets or even 4d planet after harvest. we can conclude this from the distillation of the core of experiences after death talk in regard to physical death in 3d.

    so in any given incarnation, entity's entire spiritual past will be behind the scenes in its mind/spirit, and the overall state of this complex will determine the overall progress of the entity. this wouldnt be any different in time/space -> even if the entity is in time/space, its overall balance and progress at any given junction is its overall state. remembering or not remembering past lives would not change the distillations from these past lives that made into spiritual biases.

    (08-29-2011, 01:29 AM)Icaro Wrote: I am saying that the influx of energy required to change the vibratory rate of the planet into 4d may necessarily coincide with the energies responsible for the movement of an entity into 4d. The harvestability of an entity is simply measured by their ability to receive 4d vibrations..their crystallization. The angular orientation of the planet for the instreamings, by design, obviously need to coincide with the harvest at the end of the major cycle.

    one would think so, however according to explanations of what intelligent infinity contact constitutes and how this can be achieved, and the result of the discussion we have made some time ago in which monica showed that it was necessary to open all energy centers in incarnation up to 6th chakra in order to achieve intelligent infinity contact and therefore attaining harvest, i wouldnt say that just receiving 4d energies/vibrations would be enough.

    it would be rather naive to exaggerate 4d by the way. 4d is green, concept related to acceptance or rejection of others and their emotions, love, friendship, numerous things are in it. these are not stuff that people do not experience at large. moreover, 4d vibrations were here for a long time, and those who could get past through the weight 3d was inducing was able to experience these emotions and feelings.

    i think so many people confuse the increasing vibrations and feelings they experience as the gates to intelligent infinity opens, or the vibrations their guides, sources etc provide, with 4d and its vibrations, leading to an exaggeration of 4d and its effects.

    4d is just 4d, the chakra after 3. just like how an entity doesnt become able to port itself from planet to planet when it opens its 4th chakra, or reach endless octaves and infinity, the planet also would not.

    Quote:Why should the planet's transition, and our transition occur at different times? As it pertains to the end of the cycle however, the indication of a planet's readiness should also be an indication of the harvest beginning.

    totally due to free will of entities on the planet. the entities could be harvest ready long before the vibrations began in 1937. or straggle behind like they are doing just now. or anything else, ranging from the tree people in sirius being able to send a spaceship to explore the meaning of hostile and warlike acts to this planet as they prepare for their harvest in end 3d, or even like how they were able to approach social memory complex state two times or so.

    a function of free will. the planet on the other hand, moves according to the mechanism infinite intelligence provided it seems.

    Quote:Moreover, it was said the lagging transition was a result of the collective disharmony. So the 80 year gap between transition and harvest would seem to have no purpose/relevance. If the planet is being transformed into 4d through the reception of those specific energies, and an entity is also ready to receive 4d energies, why should we assume that the local gateway isn't open now?

    what was the cosmic purpose of maldek people destroying their planet ? nothing. a total result of free will. and you think 80 years gap is something significant and cant be meaningless. an entire planet has become a band of asteroids in orbit around the sun now. same goes for the lagging behind.

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    Share your vision for the harvest - by hogey11 - 08-27-2011, 06:07 PM
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