Waking up "out of body"

[zenmaster]

The negative 4D's, who have been studying people for years, are still a bit clumsy when it comes to relating info. Although they are much more intelligent than us, they are not from this logos and of course have different priorities. They tend not understand most emotions, but they do understand our need for them. If a mere 3D shaman with very few years experience can watch and interact in your dream, then it's easy to see how a multi-thousand year old 4D entity can not only do this, but create them as well. The purpose is control and exploitation. My own experience gives me strong reason to believe, for example, that this guy is not lying with his story (although it's necessarily interpreted from his bias). I realize that that story may seem too incredible to some - but we all have our boundaries. In his story, and elsewhere, he details just how such 'psi-work' is accomplished.