08-28-2011, 11:03 PM
(08-28-2011, 07:11 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(08-28-2011, 04:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Tenet, do you think the 4D earth would grow to a population of billions like it is now? And I wonder if space is no longer a consideration, if two people can occupy the same space so to speak.
Sure, I don't see why not. We know that there is variable physicality, at least. Also I don't foresee overpopulation being as big of a deal as entities will no longer be forced to consume inordinate amounts of resources in order to survive.
you are thinking only in terms of 3d necessities. you arent taking into account the harvest rates issues.
even with Ra's harmonious harvest the harvest rate was only 5%. this would mean that harvest rates would be lower for mixed harvests.
population a newly 4d planet with 1 billion 4d souls, would mean 1 billion starter 4d souls. this would necessitate there being recent harvests happened on any number of 3d planets with populations totaling 40 billion entities, if you take 5% harvest rate of Ra.
billion is not a normal number, and the population number we see on this planet in the magnitude of 6-7 billion would not be attainable in a planet of this size without inordinate amounts of technology being given to the society living there, like it happened here. for that, a mass wanderer wave toiled for approx 200 years. we can be sure that this thing is not the norm, because as the maldek, mars incidents prove, this amount of technology being given to 3d societies can cause grand scale mishaps.
therefore a planet which has not received such excessive technology wouldnt support billions of entities comfortably. moreover, not all logi choose 3d lifeforms that can manipulate the environment - there are sea based bodies, there are trees, there are all kinds of bodies. so, a normal 3d planet would support lower levels of populations, depending on its size.
even this planet sported only 345,000 entities at the end of 2nd cycle.
if we take Ra's numbers of 30 million, and increase it considering venus's size, even ten times a planet the size of venus with ten times resources would sport 300 million. even if you go far to adjust this for other factors and ramp up, and go to 500 million, you still would need 80 average 3d planets having had harvests of their total populations in order to populate this planet with these numbers, right at this time and hour.
AND, all of these harvestees need to be compatible with this logos' archetype, and the conditions and spiritual biases on this planet. even the fact that the spiritual mass of an entity evolved as a giant sea creature would be much bigger than an entity which evolved as a small ape and the incompatibility that would result from these two living in a body or the sea creature living in a body that lies far below its mind/spirit can handle would be a hint.
as you can see, numbers as great as these, do not hold as the densities progress upward. there are even more entities in all kinds of sizes and varieties in 2d than there are in 3d. the 3d population of 6 billion of this planet, cannot be even compared to the numbers of entities or near entities in 2d. however, as you can see, the number of entities also gets reduced from 2d to 3d. and if we consider that Ra is only at 60 million at this point, despite any/all entities which joined them during 4, 5 and 6th densities, the proposition gets stronger.
in short, higher densities are not as populated as some of you seem to believe.