(07-30-2011, 02:51 PM)Azrael Wrote:Much of this type of learning falls within the realm of the imagination, of course. Like dreams, for example (Ra said that past a certain point, dreams are the most efficient tool for polarizing). And, due to lack of societal catalyst of a helpful nature, you automatically get 'external help' to the extent that it is needed or requested.(07-30-2011, 02:47 PM)zenmaster Wrote: I contend that 'knowing oneself', in 3D terms, is an evolutionary process with predictable, documented, stages, and that these stages are indicative of the subdensities, or the progression of self-awareness. There is an archetypal framework for the manner in which the self learns about self. The stages always move from pre-personal (1-3), to personal (3-6), to transpersonal (6-7). Only at the latter stages can we attain enough 'escape velocity' (polarity) to be sufficiently free from the collective 'support system', that is, to even be able to make our own choices.This is very important to note! The fact that your level of learning can go beyond 3D while still in 3D.
If there is efficient use of catalyst, the adept will move into the teaching of the next octave, while still in 3D.
(07-30-2011, 02:58 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't see them quite so much as stages. 2 doesn't necessarily need to come before 5. I also see many twists come along from all the subdensities within the subdensities, and also how these interplay across the mind/body/spirit complexity of 'oneself'. They are all here at once and the pathways are not the same.You can look at these stages as centers of expression of one's values (what is deemed to be compelling or important). We reach up to a higher and dip down to experience the lower, but on balance there tends to be a center of gravity that does follow a predictable progression, as they contain prerequiste 'coursework'. This progression is especially evident while becoming an adult. Most people here move quickly to 4. Most 'wanderers' apparently quickly move to 6 and remain, as there is little incentive to go beyond.
(07-30-2011, 02:58 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I would say so too. We "move into the teaching" as a student. Right?Yes, effectively we perceive the catalyst for which we have prepared ourselves. The nature of catalyst changes as our mind progresses to accept, or to provide a place for more of our spirit. We become more of what we have always been. But it is formulaic and we can know what can be taught and what can be learned. We always follow rules (archetypal principles of the logos) and act predictably within these constraints which force us to constantly confront ourselves. This confrontation is generally ignored which necessarily results in disease.