07-16-2011, 11:40 AM
(07-16-2011, 11:27 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Ocean isn't concerned with writing "true" statements, and this idea is applicable to reading her post.I understand ocean isn't concerned about writing true statements.
Is the unconscious the ultimate of the unknown? I don't think so.
Also, is learning based on prior experience? I don't think so.
What I think you are saying is that the ego sees where it is and where it wants to go and must, through an act of acceptance, move across the boundary in order to register a 'known something.'
Sometimes this is the case, but great 'knowns' are achieved without ever an ego contemplation. I think there exist 'unknowns' to the unconscious as well.
Is the unconscious the ultimate of the unknown? No I don't think so either. It's just a very good example, that we have made here, of the concept of mind - 'that which knows'.
Learning based on prior experience is a given. It is principle to discernment. All that is intuition or perceptual, is antecedent to discernment.
The ego can see where it is, it doesn't always. But it always is 'somewhere' in its landscape. The curiosity is part of that acceptance. It is an act of allowing. That new thing is necessarily contextualized within what has been known prior.
If you think there exists unknowns to the unconscious, then you are not using Jung's definition (for example), which necessarily has everything unconscious as that which is separate from self.