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    Thread: Safe Places?


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    08-06-2009, 01:03 PM
    Its great to see so many thoughtful responses on this topic. I feel like I am on the same page with folks here. I know that Cosmic Awareness, and I THINK Ra also, has made statements to the effect that we are playing out a HUGE cosmic shift in this time period, and that changes are happening on SO many levels, that we are just experiencing a small "slice" of it in this 3D experience. It is the culmination of some huge cycles that have gone for tens of thousands and maybe even millions+ of years. So, in a sense, there really isn't that much we can do to change the general direction of universal events, but what we do have power to work on is our own personal lives, and doing our best to forgive, let go of karmic ties, manifest love/service, etc.

    I feel that the Law of Attraction is valid, and in fact there seem to be many Universal Laws, the LOA being just one of them. However, the way I understand it is, WE (all of us on the Earth, even beyond) are ALL creating OUR reality together. We all have effect on each other, even if the effect is subtle. No one is in a complete vacuum from the world, and therefore, all of our creations have been influenced by "others". So we cannot just conjure up a world to suit our desires (maybe in 4D+ that is more possible), rather we have to cope with a COLLECTIVE reality, a group mind, a cultural higher self, that sort of thing. I feel like the LOA has been heavily marketed in the past few years mainly to take advantage of the "self-help" crowd, I mean look who's promoting it, Oprah?? This is a person who will do anything to make a buck, and her niche is taking advantage of people looking for help. So I am skeptical about "The Secret" and "What The Bleep" because I feel like it ignores too many of the issues that influence the actual outcome of all this "positive visualisation" and "feeling what you desire".

    (08-06-2009, 09:28 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Also... Seriously, I saw one of the project Camelot entourage in one of our big news channels today... Not being ridiculed, some journalist actually took the time to describe her story accurately and with references to her work. That's just insane.

    Wow! That is pretty amazing for a big news channel to acknowledge something so fringe! Project Camelot has interviewed a lot of fascinating people with very controversial views. People could directly run into George Green or Bill Deagle via such a link! I have enjoyed Green's Handbook For the New Paradigm, but his recent material has been very armageddon-ish, with him basically advising everything that the Light was not powerful enough to overcome the Dark, so everyone has to head for ze hills, specifically COsta Rica I think, and buy lots of gold. Deagle predicts massive martial law and pandemic outbreaks every six months or so, and tries to sell people thousands of dollars worth of health supplements and survivalist gear after each lecture. Cosmic Awareness has pointed to Deagle specifically as an individual who means well, but is unintentionally spreading a fearful message, which is best to just ignore. I do think that to focus on and believe in the fear is to draw it more to yourself, which is why I do my best to maintain an "observer" mode. I think the piggy flu scare is also just about FEAR, the realities of it seem too far-fetched and I mean the death toll is very low, tons of people die from the regular flu every year, that's life.

    (08-06-2009, 09:28 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: This isn't to claim that the negative elite does not exist. It does. But it is a reflection of human creation. Not of something imposed upon humanity from the outside.

    What do you call the Orion influence though? It seems to me that the whole economic system, having its origin in the Orion conquering empire, has been entirely IMPOSED upon the Earth by these outside forces, at least on the 3D level! Now, given, it has come through via human minds (I am not a believer of the reptilian shapeshifter theory that all the politicians are in fact physical aliens), via the occult rituals of STS beings, who contact the Orion force and label the beings they speak with as "demons" or "Lucifer" or "Satan" or whoever. They receive instruction and make it so by their own "free will" choices, but it is still the will of Orion being imposed, isn't it? Perhaps on other levels we have more of a say in the matter, but we have all been born into a system entirely established towards the ruling vision of the Orions, with assistance from the li'l Greys, if not others. However, many spiritual sources tell us that their plan is doomed to fail, due to their total lack of spiritual awareness! I believe it! But I wonder how such a mighty power can fall?

    Earth's political power structure must be an As Above-So Below reflection. Makes me wonder what sort of chaos/change is occuring on the other densities..
    T

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    Safe Places? - by MisterRabbit - 08-01-2009, 11:58 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Sirius - 08-02-2009, 07:39 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-02-2009, 12:28 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by airwaves - 08-02-2009, 12:41 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Lorna - 08-02-2009, 03:56 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-02-2009, 07:05 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by MisterRabbit - 08-02-2009, 05:22 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by airwaves - 08-02-2009, 06:04 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Lorna - 08-02-2009, 05:43 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Sirius - 08-02-2009, 08:48 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-02-2009, 11:36 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by thr33tim3 - 08-04-2009, 02:42 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-04-2009, 12:16 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-03-2009, 07:47 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by ayadew - 08-03-2009, 08:39 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Richard - 08-03-2009, 03:58 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by MisterRabbit - 08-03-2009, 09:55 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by thr33tim3 - 08-03-2009, 10:51 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-06-2009, 07:15 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-07-2009, 09:58 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by MisterRabbit - 08-05-2009, 11:16 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Ali Quadir - 08-06-2009, 05:39 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-06-2009, 08:19 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Ali Quadir - 08-06-2009, 09:28 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by thr33tim3 - 08-06-2009, 01:03 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Ali Quadir - 08-12-2009, 06:46 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by thr33tim3 - 08-12-2009, 01:39 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Whitefeather - 08-13-2009, 12:02 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Ali Quadir - 08-13-2009, 05:45 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Richard - 08-06-2009, 10:10 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Sirius - 08-06-2009, 08:43 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-06-2009, 09:30 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Whitefeather - 08-09-2009, 07:57 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-09-2009, 09:22 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Whitefeather - 08-13-2009, 06:58 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-13-2009, 07:09 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by MisterRabbit - 08-11-2009, 04:27 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-11-2009, 06:17 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-12-2009, 04:09 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by ayadew - 08-13-2009, 08:16 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-13-2009, 09:12 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 08-16-2009, 12:48 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Vince - 08-17-2009, 09:31 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 08-17-2009, 01:16 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Vince - 08-17-2009, 06:45 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-17-2009, 06:54 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Vince - 08-18-2009, 05:07 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-18-2009, 11:25 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Vince - 08-25-2009, 09:09 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Richard - 08-17-2009, 02:12 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Whitefeather - 08-18-2009, 11:35 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by thr33tim3 - 08-18-2009, 02:42 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by βαθμιαίος - 08-18-2009, 05:47 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by thr33tim3 - 08-18-2009, 07:18 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Richard - 08-27-2009, 10:46 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 08-19-2009, 01:25 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 08-19-2009, 12:39 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-19-2009, 12:47 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 08-19-2009, 12:54 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Eddie - 09-11-2009, 05:17 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Whitefeather - 08-30-2009, 07:37 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by PandaB - 09-10-2009, 06:21 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 09-10-2009, 06:34 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 09-10-2009, 09:54 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by irpsit - 09-11-2009, 02:44 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by godexpressing - 09-20-2009, 09:15 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 09-20-2009, 05:20 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by godexpressing - 09-21-2009, 10:36 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 09-22-2009, 01:00 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 09-20-2009, 12:39 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Eneary - 09-21-2009, 05:22 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 09-21-2009, 05:37 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 09-21-2009, 06:41 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by fairyfarmgirl - 09-22-2009, 09:18 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Monica - 09-22-2009, 12:48 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Whitefeather - 10-18-2009, 02:46 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Marina - 10-25-2009, 05:50 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by gharghur - 10-25-2009, 06:26 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Marina - 10-26-2009, 12:42 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Whitefeather - 10-27-2009, 12:10 AM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Lakewolf - 10-30-2009, 07:01 PM
    RE: Safe Places? - by Marina - 10-31-2009, 12:30 PM

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