More Positive but Less Harvestable

[unity100]

I am very interested in figuring out what went on there. So.. hmm.. I see there is a lot of confusion over Yahweh, Jehovah, YHVH (and permutations), et al. Which is interesting, but not where I want to direct my thought as of yet. I am referring to whomever became the One God of the Hebrews, and who was featured in Exodus. Is there a name we can agree on to assign to this entity?

you can maybe use 'confederate yahweh' and 'orion yahweh'.

Also, I am curious how you arrived at 1600 BC for the Orion entity contact. That would place it during the chaotic "Second Intermediate" rather than the "New Kingdom" period of Egyptian history.

So you are saying Ra contact is in the time of Sargon the Great and at the end of the Old Kingdom of Egypt? Do you have an argument or evidence to support that claim? Or..?

if you are just using yahweh as a misnomer to refer to the orion entity that usurped it later, that orion entity was not past the quarantine, and working in earth at the time of last contact by Ra. that outfit was able to get past quarantine through a random window around 1600 BC or something.

Again, where are you coming up with your timeframe? I am not asking in an argumentative fashion, but rather because I am eager to know if there is something important I overlooked.

actually there is something you greatly overlooked :

http://lawofone.info/results.php?search_...&ss=1&sc=1

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#7

orion group had been able to put an extraterrestrial vehicle past the quarantine through random window effect, approx at 1600 BC. (3600 years before 1980 ADish. makes 1620 BC or so).

they were unable to maintain their presence for long, and after 600 years, they seem to left in around ~ 1000 BC, from what we read. during this era, numerous 'prophets' have sprung up with their push.

Yes! I am trying to trace this distortion through time, given the information that we have available to us. Ah, so maybe are you saying the assertion that Ra caused the distortion goes too far?? It had already been going on long before the Ra contact.

martians brought from mars, not only had the spiritual biases and dynamics of mars they accumulated (whatever happened there leading to that destruction), but also yahweh gave them genetically modified bodies, which were superior to native gaians. this speedily led to a superiority complex in the entities inhabiting these bodies apparently. coupled with the increased ability to make and modify tools and the greater mental ability genetically built into these bodies (to better understand the creator, apparently ...), seems to have led to extensive warring through tools, carrying over the elitism-enslavement dynamic inevitably to all other cultures.

OK OK, sorry Ra! Still... whenever Ra makes the Egypt contact, they did not foresee the Orion entity coming in and twisting everything around. Or did they???

Let us assume they DID NOT know. That means that, whatever state of being they were coming from at the time, [Late 4th density, early 5th density??] they were unable to see the potentially negative outcomes of their "intervention". (Sorry, but I still see it as an intervention.) Do you have another word for this? What would you call it?

In any case, in consideration of a late 3rd density/early 4th density entity wanting to polarize more positively... well all I am trying to say is BE WISE about it. Just because an action is loving, does not mean it can't be twisted to the negative side.

excuse me, but you are making a lot of far-flung conclusions with lacking information. ra was neither late 4th or early 5th density during the time of egypt contact. they were late 6d, as they are now, this information is present in the material, just like how the information regarding the dates for yahweh and orion influences were.

you either dont remember these, or havent paid attention to these, but you are making rather far flung conclusions.

you can just search 'yahweh' and 'orion' and etc through lawofone info and establish the proposal you are going to tell better, if you do not have the time to read the books again.

if you dive deeper, the question would go as far as maldek to the spiritual influences acting on this solar system, and even to Ra's own experience itself.

Absolutely! Which gets to exactly why I take such a hard line on violent and warlike thinking, as evidenced by earlier in this thread.

I feel like this Maldek influence is mucking things up for everybody else, who are more than ready to move on. Look, you guys destroyed your own flippin' planet, came here, jacked around for thousands (tens of thousands, millions???) of years. STILL can't figure out how to live in peace. Welp! Sorry, guys, we gave it a good run. We'll catch up with you in mid sixth density and have a cup of nectar together. Time to move on!!

most of maldek entities left this planet before it started 3d. few remaining joined this planet in 3d. it is probable that some joined mars experience, and after mars 3d ended in destruction, they were ferried over to earth to join its 3d. but, it cant be said that maldek entities are here en masse.

it is also questionable that, percentage of maldek entities joining mars was able to effect the exact similar pattern leading up to destruction of mars.

the problem seems to be more deeply rooted in the solar system wide 3d practice - namely, the veil being made heavier after Ra's experience. apparently, to 'preserve free will' of entities.

it seems because veil was heavier, entities were having a harder time harvesting. and there seems to be interventions made to provide for penetration of the veil through technology or through pyramid constructs and so on. this may have happened on maldek too. however they acquired it, maldek entities acquired nuclear weapons and destroyed their entire planet.

come mars, similar pattern. come earth, an excessive warlike pattern even before the population acquires any noticeable technology that can be used in warfare.

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whatever the problem is, it is hampering the development of the entities of 3d in this solar system in regard to emotion/spiritual sphere, and keeping them regressing back to 2d patterns. if, any kind of technology given to such populations, they are using it to effect destruction as a result of fixations, stubbornness and herd consciousness of 2d behavior patterns.

the problem here is with the logos and the extremely heavy veil it employed after the Ra experience. it caused 'non experience/non free will' of billions of entities, while supposedly effecting 'free will' because, it seems, ra entities didnt have much 'free will' in their 3d experience. ironically, it is that Ra entities which didnt have enough 'free will' who are bailing out this planet, which was destined for another major failure, if those Ra entities and similar did not incarnate en masse.

the party needing the wisdom/love you speak about, is the logos of this solar system.

Given those three assumptions- Why are all the "spiritual" people of the world still arguing over details about how people "should" or "should not" live their lives???? What good is it doing anybody who might be teetering on the edge, to set out ideals of conduct that are most likely unattainable between now and the end of next year? Why not just WAIT for fourth density perception to arrive, and then reevaluate our ethical systems then, when we can see much more clearly?

Isn't there something that we can ALL get behind? RIGHT NOW? Some sort of unified message?

Any suggestions, unity100? Or anybody else?

there are should nots at any given point in the development of an entity from 1 to end 8th density.

destroying planets with nuclear devices, are one of those should nots.

and no, actually, you cannot get behind any 'unified' message. the problem in this nexus and apparently a few of the other nexi, is with that 'unified' or 'oneness' being impressed upon the populations.

oneness, or unifiedness is not something that can be perceived properly, leave aside practically manifested until 6th density. there is a reason why it is the meaning and nature, and entire lesson of an entire density named 6th - because it is the property, and lesson of THAT density.

the central logos of this galaxy seems to have emphasized it (oneness concept) in its creation. moreover, this particular logos of this solar system also seems to have built on it.

and it is creating all the problems we are experiencing today.

the only way 3d entities, which are fresh out of 2d, which sees everything as an extension of self, manifest 'oneness' is through 2d mindset - herd, or seeing everything as an extension of self again. therefore, any thought/belief/emotion that is in the psyche, societal division of any group, seems to be seen as the 'oneness' that should be manifested.

after that, queue repression, queue wars, queue conflicts against other groups which have their own beliefs and approaches.

even if apparently all the populations on the planet get affected by that 'unification' concept, this especially gets to surface in blatant form in the groups which have been effected into religions that promote negativity over that 'oneness'. it is apparently a mechanic that bolsters the problem of manifesting oneness in 3d societies regressing back to 2d. the entities identify belief with themselves, and then attempt to unify everyone in it. and most affected are the societies which were culturally, or genetically effected by yahweh, or distorted by orion. the latter seems to have preferred to work over the framework yahweh created.

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you shouldnt get behind a certain message. you shouldnt manifest 'oneness' culturally in 3d either - 3d is a density of 'many'es, and there should be many different thoughts and patterns and whatsoever in this environment - not only because it is 3d, but also because there are a lot of souls from a lot of different places. this means a lot of spiritual biases, a lot of patterns.

trying to mold this into something through any means, would cause hampering of patterns different than this solar system's. the exception is the cases in which these patterns are harmful to others' patterns - like blowing up an entire planet through weapons, or subduing/massacring/brainwashing masses through technology, or somehow affecting their development adversely.

true approach should be, not only allowing but accepting different thoughts, perspectives, patterns, approaches without trying to unify or 'uniformize' them.

'let them be' as long as they dont break others seems to be the necessity.

after 6th, there is another density. it is 7th. 6th density's meaning - which is oneness - is not the entire meaning and nature of the existence. there are endless numbers of densities carrying different meanings, in endless number of octaves, before, and after the 6th density in this octave.