07-13-2011, 12:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-16-2011, 12:53 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
(07-12-2011, 06:37 PM)unity100 Wrote: that wouldnt be relevant. 'yahweh lurking around' would be inappropriate for the time of Ra contact, since you are apparently referring to the orion entity which usurped yahweh's identity after 1600 BC.
I am very interested in figuring out what went on there. So.. hmm.. I see there is a lot of confusion over Yahweh, Jehovah, YHVH (and permutations), et al. Which is interesting, but not where I want to direct my thought as of yet. I am referring to whomever became the One God of the Hebrews, and who was featured in Exodus. Is there a name we can agree on to assign to this entity?
Also, I am curious how you arrived at 1600 BC for the Orion entity contact. That would place it during the chaotic "Second Intermediate" rather than the "New Kingdom" period of Egyptian history.
Quote:Ra contact, in the latest, is 2300 BC or so. before 1600 BC date, yahweh was the confederation entity, positive yahweh. there would be no concept of yahweh 'lurking' around that time.
So you are saying Ra contact is in the time of Sargon the Great and at the end of the Old Kingdom of Egypt? Do you have an argument or evidence to support that claim? Or..?
I know I am drawing a conclusion that cannot be proved one way or the other... BUT we do know that Akhenaten and Nefertiti ruled up until 1333 BC. We do know that Akhenaten promulgated a belief system that appears quite similar to the Law of One. We do know that this DID NOT go over well with the Egyptians, and that there was a subsequent attempt to erase them from the historical record.
We ALSO see the same theme emerge (apparently much later) with the Inca culture in South America. Down to the high congruency of physical details between Akhenaten and Viracocha. The latter who is said to have emerged from a portal or stargate.
Now read this excerpt:
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The identity of the vibration Ra is our identity. We as a group, or what you would call a social memory complex, made contact with a race of your planetary kind which you call Egyptians. Others from our density made contact at the same time in South America, and the so-called “lost cities” were their attempts to contribute to the Law of One.
We spoke to one who heard and understood and was in a position to decree the Law of One. However, the priests and peoples of that era quickly distorted our message, robbing it of the, shall we say, compassion with which unity is informed by its very nature. Since it contains all, it cannot abhor any.
When we were no longer able to have appropriate channels through which to enunciate the Law of One, we removed ourselves from the now hypocritical position which we had allowed ourselves to be placed in. And other myths, shall we say, other understandings, having more to do with polarity and the things of your vibrational complex, again took over in that particular society complex.
Does this form a sufficient amount of information, or could we speak further?
Is there another query?
NO Ra! This does not form a sufficient amount of information! Please speak further!!
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Quote:if you are just using yahweh as a misnomer to refer to the orion entity that usurped it later, that orion entity was not past the quarantine, and working in earth at the time of last contact by Ra. that outfit was able to get past quarantine through a random window around 1600 BC or something.
Again, where are you coming up with your timeframe? I am not asking in an argumentative fashion, but rather because I am eager to know if there is something important I overlooked.
Quote:if you go as so far to go way back, you would not find the 'doomsday' distortion, but, 'one god', but more appropriately, 'god/gods' distortion created by yahweh's genetic intervention to make entities more 'able' to perceive intelligent infinity at the start of this 75,000 year period by genetically modified bodies brought from mars.
Yes! I am trying to trace this distortion through time, given the information that we have available to us. Ah, so maybe are you saying the assertion that Ra caused the distortion goes too far?? It had already been going on long before the Ra contact.
OK OK, sorry Ra! Still... whenever Ra makes the Egypt contact, they did not foresee the Orion entity coming in and twisting everything around. Or did they???
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Let us assume they DID NOT know. That means that, whatever state of being they were coming from at the time, [Late 4th density, early 5th density??] they were unable to see the potentially negative outcomes of their "intervention". (Sorry, but I still see it as an intervention.) Do you have another word for this? What would you call it?
In any case, in consideration of a late 3rd density/early 4th density entity wanting to polarize more positively... well all I am trying to say is BE WISE about it. Just because an action is loving, does not mean it can't be twisted to the negative side.
Love is not sufficient to guarantee a positive outcome. I mean, really, anybody who has lived with an alcoholic or drug addict can tell you that. :idea:
Taking actions that are BOTH loving AND wise is the key. And try to keep tabs on the overzealousness which comes from taking an absolutist mental stance. This is the suggestion I would offer to early 4th density humanity, based on what I know about the densities which are to come.
We don't know what we don't know. Do you suppose that the grand journey of Life has no surprises for us? Are we even meant to "figure it all out" or are we meant to live within the mystery?
Quote:if you dive deeper, the question would go as far as maldek to the spiritual influences acting on this solar system, and even to Ra's own experience itself.
Absolutely! Which gets to exactly why I take such a hard line on violent and warlike thinking, as evidenced by earlier in this thread.
I feel like this Maldek influence is mucking things up for everybody else, who are more than ready to move on. Look, you guys destroyed your own flippin' planet, came here, jacked around for thousands (tens of thousands, millions???) of years. STILL can't figure out how to live in peace. Welp! Sorry, guys, we gave it a good run. We'll catch up with you in mid sixth density and have a cup of nectar together. Time to move on!!
Quote:there seems to be a 'one god/oneness' distortion being tried to impress on entities of this solar system with every planetary experience.
Indeed. And we can only speculate so far back into the annals of cosmic history as to its origins. But we CAN see (I think pretty clearly) how this distortion is still holding humanity back today, in 2011.
So where do we go from here?
Let's for a moment, assume that something really BIG is going to happen at the end of next year. Let's assume that, yes, humanity has an opportunity to take a HUGE leap forward. Let's assume that, yes, all of the Wanderers that have come from the far reaches of the density spectrum in order to "increase the harvest".
Given those three assumptions- Why are all the "spiritual" people of the world still arguing over details about how people "should" or "should not" live their lives???? What good is it doing anybody who might be teetering on the edge, to set out ideals of conduct that are most likely unattainable between now and the end of next year? Why not just WAIT for fourth density perception to arrive, and then reevaluate our ethical systems then, when we can see much more clearly?
Isn't there something that we can ALL get behind? RIGHT NOW? Some sort of unified message?
Any suggestions, unity100? Or anybody else?
(07-12-2011, 04:06 PM)neutral333 Wrote: When there is contradiction in the heart and mind, you become less harvestable. It is about doing something 100% whether its STS or STO.
What do you mean by "heart and mind"? I take that to mean LOVING and WISE.
I also see a great deal of confusion with regard to this word: harvestable.
According to the Law of One, one must be sufficiently polarized in order to be harvestable. The material offers 51% polarization to STO and 95% polarization to STS.
So polarization is a matter of degree. Harvestability is not. An entity is either harvestable, or not.
There is no "more or less" harvestable, only more or less polarized. There are no "partially harvested" entities in 4D.
Based on that, my personal ethical stance is: I believe I already have attained the requisite 51%, which is good enough for me. There is nothing in the Law of One to suggest that an entity "should" strive for 100%. And I do not feel that I am anywhere near close to "accidentally" falling under 51%.
If I had to guess, I would be somewhere in the 75 - 85% range. But even in my guessing, you can clearly see how ABSURD it is to continue with this line of thinking. It doesn't get you anywhere you want to be. So what? Tenet is 55.7% and PFC JoeBob is 55.4%, so Tenet's view comes out on top? That actually sounds kind of like how a highly polarized STS entity would arrange things.
In fact, Ra rarely uses the word "should" in the material. And when Ra does, it is in reference to how to make for a clearer channel. So, given the goal of improving the transmission, what "should" the group do?
Most of the "should"s in the material come from the questioner. Personally, I happen to feel that the persistent use of this word in the query causes more distortion of the message than whether or not the candle was facing in the "right direction", for example.
So, this is not to say I have given up on serving others. However, this IS to say that I purposely take some actions that are in the "gray area", in hopes that I can better discern which is which. I also acknowledge that I won't be able to fully discern the outcomes of my actions from within 3D. And that's OK with me. I do not fear for the future of my soul, because I failed to achieve 100% STO. [If that is even possible.]