(07-11-2011, 07:14 PM)Oceania Wrote: cool, i would love to work towards that too. i guess i could try to feed my kitty some things and see how he does but he is picky.
Oh yes, cats are much more finicky than dogs! Please let me know how your cat does! I'm starting with my dogs first.
(07-11-2011, 07:14 PM)Oceania Wrote: i agree about the cooked vegetables, those aren't good for anyone. if you listen to David Wolfe. he should do a book on animal veganism.
What does he say to do for dogs and cats? Do you happen to have a link to an interview with him on this subject?
(07-11-2011, 07:14 PM)Oceania Wrote: i think not only 4D but the change in diet is affecting your pets, if they eat less meat and more veggies, i imagine their "bloodlust" goes away. at least as i understand it, a no-meat diet makes one less violent cuz they don't consume the fear of the animal in question.
I definitely believe that to be true. (NOT saying that all meat-eating humans are violent!!) Awhile back, I held my nose and actually tried giving my dogs raw dog food, which came in frozen patties and had raw meat, raw eggs, fruits, veggies etc. They got noticeably more aggressive when they ate that food!
It was supposedly much healthier for them, but I just couldn't help but feel it was making them go backwards. So I quit. I figured if they were getting close to being human, I sure don't want to give them raw meat! It was bad enough that I was giving them cooked meat in the form of regular dog food.
(07-11-2011, 07:14 PM)Oceania Wrote: and bell peppers are nice! they're so juicy and delicious. i wish they'd say how the animals were treated in organic products. :/
With eggs the main thing is that they're free range, which usually goes together with hormone-free. I really see no reason to ever give up eggs, if you like eggs and are able to get free-range. It's a great way to get animal protein without killing an animal, for those who feel they still need animal protein. But commercial eggs are horrid! Egg-laying hens are horribly abused and the eggs are full of hormones, antibiotics, etc. as well as have a lot more cholesterol than free-range eggs. Many farmers' markets now carry free-range eggs, as well as health food stores like Whole Foods Market of course. It's usually pretty easy to find them, at least in my area. If nothing else, try craigslist and find someone to barter with. But I think it's really important to not support the vile commercial egg industry.
It's much trickier with milk and cheese products. The only way to know for sure is to call the company and ask some very pointed questions about their dairy. See if they'll send you pictures and prove how their cows are treated. Or if you happen to have a local dairy, actually pop in for a visit.
(07-11-2011, 07:14 PM)Oceania Wrote: i don't wanna drink milk anymore either but it's really hard to give up, since it's in *everything*. i think that's the hardest thing to give up lol.
I used to loooooooove milk, but quit 30 years ago because of sinus headaches. The headaches cleared up after I got off all milk and cheese, and for many years I had no trouble. Later, I started eating cheese again, and didn't have headaches, but did start catching colds and flus again. Definite correlation there! I had more trouble giving up the cheese the second time, because it was a comfort food for me. There's just something about that gooey stuff that's comforting when stressed out! But wow, I felt so much better after I quit!
There are many non-dairy alternatives to milk and cheese. Some good, some not so good. From the packages ones, I like Rice Dream the best. I rarely drink it anymore, because now I'm making my own almond milk. It's very easy, and verrrrrrrry healthy if you use truly raw almonds. (Illegal in the US so you have to order online - I get mine from http://livingnutz.com/.)
It helps if you have a VitaMix, but any blender will do. You just may have to strain it with a regular blender. Just soak a handful of raw almonds overnight in water, drain, add more water, and blend on high. Add a pinch of good quality salt (like Celtic or Himalayan), a dash of vanilla, and maple syrup or raw honey to taste. (Honey brings up another issue - bees are abused too - I buy honey only from local beekeepers and never use commercial honey.)
Anyway, almond milk is YUM!!!
And there are many different vegan cheeses to choose from, and you can even make your own vegan, raw seed cheese! (I am learning how to do that.)