In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

just like how gandalf the cat has passed over the threshold of 3d, before the group soul we know as 'felix domesticus' has passed into 3d as entirety.

you are treating group consciousness as if it was akin to society complexes which are harvest requirements in 4d and 6d. in these densities, entities cannot graduate before their society complex graduates. however, this is not as such in 5d, or 3d for example.

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however i got your question in broader sense. and, in that regard ; there is no mandatory requirement for a species to evolve into 3d. the evolution, is the evolution of the mind/spirit complexes, not the body complex.

so, there is no requirement that goes like 'cat group soul and bodies evolve into 3d' or 'ape group souls and bodies evolve into 3d'.

ra had mentioned that the choice of body type to use, elements used in their design, even to the extent of 3d body to use in the planet, is a moment's choice by the logos. logos may have chosen another body than the ape body for this planet.

therefore, just like how entities in and above 3d do with their spiritual evolution, an appropriate body and experiential circumstance may be chosen for the entity's development in 2d too. the general blueprint of progress wouldnt change per densities. its basically the practice of placing any soul/entity/consciousness/whatever, in the appropriate body in a desired experiential nexus, and then taking it off.

so basically, this planet could go on for 8 billion years, and felis domesticus body may not evolve into a 3d body, and at any given point there may be a lot of entities inhabiting the cat group soul, but, there may be billions of entities passing through that group soul into other group souls and eventually graduating into 3rd density.

in short - the group souls inhabiting a planet is akin to experiential nexi for 3d entities - the spirit-to be consciousness would become a member of, and then incarnate according to the experiential necessities and the level of advancement it has.

gandalf is a stellar example in this regard - despite already 3d, the entity could chose to come back as a cat.

Very well explained!

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maybe before calling bullshit, you should establish consistency in your own propositions :

the proposition you have made just a little while ago that says slaughter can be made more humane (therefore acceptable) by collective effort, compassion and caring, could also apply to killing of other humans, therefore unrationalizing the rationalizations you have made about killing of other human beings in that other thread.

This is absurd, and you know it. Way to take my comment out of context and, once again, IGNORE the rest of the post. Unbelievable.

OK, you win. That sausage I ate last weekend is the reason why I can't graduate to 4D. I guess I will have a long time to consider the error of my ways while I spend my next life foraging for nuts and berries. I will do my best to remember not to hunt an animal though, even if my family and I are starving to death, because animals are people too. Aw, heck, plants are people too. Tell you what, I will try to subsist on rocks and sand. Will that satisfy you? Or are 1D elementals people too?

Actually, if I can manage to reach back through the veil, I will try to remember to reinvent the whisk broom before the wheel next time around, so that my fellow humans can avoid the negative karma accrued from squishing ants underfoot as they forage for food in the jungle. Maybe that will knock off a couple million years off the next cycle. Oh wait, that won't work because, in the manufacture of the whisk broom, I will be taking the life of a plant. Shoot. I guess I will just dash my body on the rocks so as not to harm any other lifeforms.

Nope nope, wait wait. With all the negative karma I've accrued over the years of eating meat, maybe I should come back AS the rock. Yes, that will teach me a lesson for sure.

NOTE TO SELF: Offering a rational counterargument to an irrational belief is pointless.

Tenet, you seem upset. Your sarcastic comments are twisting what has been said. No one is judging you. Both unity100 and I mentioned your comments about war, in order to draw parallels on the meat issue. You expressed unconcern about the meat issue, and seemed annoyed with those who do feel strongly about the meat issue, and we were trying to convey why we feel the issue is just as important as your chosen cause (which we feel strongly about as well). In fact, I feel exactly the same way you did when you said, "This is a Law of One forum and I can't believe I'm having to explain why war is wrong" or something like that. Speaking for myself, I feel the exact same way about the killing of animals! I invite you to try to see this from another perspective, by realizing that, to us, the meat issue is the very same as the war issue. It's just another area in which division, separation, oppression, and violence are occurring.

But no one is pointing fingers at anyone else. We're not playing a game of "Who's the purest of us all?" here. For example, abridgetoofar is a farmer who is trying to improve the conditions of his farm animals, and though we disagree about whether it's ok to slaughter those animals at all, we've been able to have a courteous, respectful discussion. We're not adversaries. And neither are any of us adversaries with you. You are a naturopath. You are obviously trying to make a difference in people's lives. We are all trying to figure this out, and each perspective has value. We're discussing concepts and ideas, not individual lifestyles or dietary preferences.

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Here is another concept I will plug into this stupidity. The old testament was all about blood sacrifice and appeasing god with flesh.

Yeah, that's what got me turned off of the Bible. What does blood sacrifice bring to mind?

I recently found after a buddhist exorcism I took part in that the tibetan buddhists also had these practices. They would conjure up evil spirits and trade gifts of flesh or blood to gain favor of these entities.

Creepy! I didn't know that!

Now, I have previously found that saying the word jehovah will conjure up negative spirits, while the correct pronunciation of YHVH does not. When I connect all of this flesh sacrifice with evil spirits you know what I start thinking? I don't want anything to do with negative beings! It even says in the bible that god was not pleased with cains offering of veggies, and most of us know that god in the OT was not a loving god. All sorts of descriptions of the evil god loving the smell of seasoned burning flesh.

Very significant!

Sorry guys, a million reasons for me not to eat meat, while the only reason most need to eat meat is "it tastes good".

Exactly! There really is no good reason. None.