More Positive but Less Harvestable

[Tenet Nosce]

***NOTE*** My use of the word "you" in this post is not referring to anybody in particular, so please don't take it personally.

We are getting closer to the issue here. This sounds like justification to defend an undesired judgement. What are the possible verdicts? Are the options STS and STO polarization? The self is the only judge and jury.

seejay has a relative or a close one who is in the army, or who is in some situation that may not be compatible with positive polarization, or, apparently not apparently positively polarized, and he is willing to go to the lengths of refusing the very definitions and examples given for positive/negative for it. even the denial of very definitions of positive, negative themselves. he may be the one in that situation too, maybe he is in the army or something.

I am not going to speculate on the details of seejay21's life- however I do think that this is getting closer to the issue.

Those who make war (i.e. the war-mongers) have done exceptionally well at spreading confusion, lies, and deceit regarding its true nature.

First and foremost, they manage to convince people that the war and the warriors are the same thing. So whenever somebody dares to criticize the war (whichever name they happen to give it at the time) all the military people get all butt-hurt over it and feel like they are personally being attacked. I am not attacking PFC JoeBob for joining the military. I am calling out the cowards at the top of the military food chain who are OK with sending PFC JoeBob out to do their dirty work for them. And I am definitely calling out all the "fine" Americans who have businesses that directly profit from war and think it's just dandy to live in a ten million dollar house, drive a fifty thousand dollar vehicle, and send their own kids off to fancy ivy league colleges, while somebody else's kid gets paid a PITTANCE, may not make it home alive, and even if they do it may be to a broken family and with permanent psychological and physical damage.

Military training does a great job of brainwashing people into perceiving the entire world through the filter of attacker/defender. See, it is very hard to try to get somebody to go out and attack another human being. It is much easier to convince them that somebody is out there trying to attack them, and they are simply defending themselves. Presto-change-o!

what will you do when someone comes and redefines positive and negative, and makes positive not positive, and negative not negative

Join the military, I guess.

"We're gonna fight 'em over there so we don't have to fight them here." Really? Cause I don't see any boats filled with the Taliban making their way across the ocean to attempt a military takeover of America. Just because somebody chooses to perceive something as a threat does not make it so. Hell, why doesn't the military just bust into my bedroom and shoot up my closets looking to take out the bogeyman? "Sorry about your closet, sir, you will thank us one day!"

The next very effective tactic is to censor the actual KILLING aspect of the war, and instead focus on the end result, whether it is (supposedly) peace, democracy, or whatever. Oh that's right, Americans shouldn't see those images because images of war are too "troubling". But we are more than happy to send your son or daughter off to experience it first-hand. Ummmmmmmmmm... yea THAT makes sense. Sit here on your couch and watch American Idol while your son or daughter gets shot up in Afghanistan. We wouldn't want you to feel troubled over it. Oh and by the way, it turns out that bin Laden wasn't in Afghanistan, he was in Pakistan! OOOOPPPS! I knew it was one of those "-stans"! Sorry about putting everybody in harm's way for nothing. Anyhoo can't stay and chat we gotta get over to Libya. Lots of great oil interests... ahem I mean innocent people... over there for us to protect.

Then, the master propagandists set out on using "national pride" and "national identity" to effectively DEHUMANIZE others who live in "enemy" territory. What is that? Our own people are protesting against our military tactics? No problem, we will just create a new legal term "enemy combatant" and use that to justify torture and killing of other human beings. See? They are not a flesh-and-blood person... they are an enemy combatant! Now we can torture and kill them with impunity. Well gee, isn't that clever?

Does anybody ever stop to think that the person they are about to KILL is maybe some poor, lost, scared soul that was lied to, taken advantage of and given a weapon? Didja look a man in the eyes before you took his life? Or were you sitting in your armored vehicle, looking at your "target" on a computer screen made to look suspiciously like Call of Duty? I got 10 frags today! Look there is my name up on the leaderboard! Hoooo-weeee let's kill us some more!

Sure, so we protected some innocent women and children... by KILLING the aggressors. And who exactly gets to decide about who deserves protection and who deserves death anyway? Did the people take a vote? If so, I missed it. Why do the Afghanis get military protection, while the Sudanese are left to fend for themselves. Hmmm? Gee I don't know. Could it have something to do with oil profits?

You know what? The Mujahideen have families too. They have moms and dads and brothers and sisters and children too. And despite the fact that they might be horribly misled, misguided, and dangerous, I'm sure that their friends and family are quite devastated when one of them gets their head blown off at the hands of some stranger. This is exactly what perpetuates the cycle of war.

AND THEN. If you happen to get far enough along in the argument out comes the trump card. "Well you weren't there so what do you know about it?" Oh wait, you are right. I don't get to weigh in on the issue because I wasn't there! Makes perfect sense. Well then let's just give everybody a weapon and start shooting each other so that way we can all have our say. Why not just hand out guns on the playground and tell our children that shooting each other is a great way to resolve their differences? No, no, that won't work. We will wait until they are at the ripe, wise age of 18, then we will hand them weapons and ship them off on their merry way.

Crap, the trump card failed? OK then I am just going to call everybody who wants peace NAIVE. Peaceniks. Dirty hippies. World peace *scoff* not in my lifetime! Those peace-loving hippies should THANK me for killing others to defend them. Well as much as I would like to stay here with all you treehuggers, I got me some DEMOCRACY to spread.

God it is such a mind&^(k! Am I really here on Bring4th.org arguing about whether or not KILLING OTHER HUMAN BEINGS is a fourth density value?

No. No. You're right. War is the answer. Eventually, if we just "stay the course" killing others will result in peace. And I am an ignorant sleeping fool. Yeah, whatever, wake me up when the last bullet flies. I will be napping on a beach somewhere trying to soak up the last rays of sunshine before we blow the planet to smithereens.