More Positive but Less Harvestable

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Nowhere in the LOO have I found Ra stating anything conclusively about anyones sts/sto orientation. The closest thing might be Hitler in which Ra states "..followed the pattern of negative polarization.." but refrains from actually saying that he was STS. So I don't know what you mean by discussing this material, as Ra NEVER says anything about judging others all day long. I would conclude that you aren't discussing the LOO at all, as this is never discussed in the LOO.

two parts of your above statements contradict each other - first, you say that various information about negative polarization patterns were given, second, you say that 'this is never discussed in Ra material'.

as you already yourself said, it was discussed in Ra material.

conclusive information was not given, because it cant be given. however, general information pertaining to identifying polarization paths were given.

you cant ignore the information you have just because you think 'judging' others is something that you need to refrain from.

its not about judging - its about what you DO with your judgment.

As far as the quote you reference, the part that needs more respecting is "Thus, it is not particularly probable that an entity would be completely unknown to his immediate acquaintances". I don't know any of us could be so bold to label hitler, patton, george bush or any of the others we judge as sts if we don't even know them as a long distance acquaintance.

i gave that quote about identifying harvestable entities from 3d - even that information is present in the above form. i gave it, because it was the extreme end. hardest information to discern and use.

actually, there is endless amounts of information in regard to positive, negative behavior patterns. i didnt feel the need to list these, because these information occupy a few volumes of the material already. i reckoned that you would remember these, by memory. which apparently, you either dont, or, just dont want to remember.

Where does it say in the LOO "knowledge base" say that we should insashibly judge others. The word "Judgement" does not show up in the LOO even once.

firstly, if you keep making such outlandish statements, i will have to discontinue discussing with you, since you are apparently talking about something which you havent read, or havent attentively read or spent time, or outright dont remember.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?search_...&ss=1&sc=1

'judgment' is something which is advised, emphasized, and actually to some degree, required :

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#9

Fourth density Wanderers, of which there are not many, will tend to choose those entities which seem to be full of love or in need of love. There is the great possibility/probability of entities making errors in judgment due to the compassion with which other-selves are viewed.

as you can see, the entities are expected to use their judgment. however, not all wanderers from all densities are capable of making good judgments. for example, the 4th density may err in judgment due to compassion, we are told.

in summary, if you dont have faculties of judgment, or dont use it while living your life, basically you go astray.

Yes, my words are bold, as we have moved far away from what the LOO is here to teach us, such as this:

We prefer that this be left to the discretion of those who seek the Law of One.

you should re-read the part i bolded with the q/a you showed in support of what you have been speaking of.

ra did not say 'dont judge' -> ra left the judging of the old testament, to the pursuant of Law of One.

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ses...c=1&ss=1#7

i am at a loss to see where it says 'dont judge' or 'dont use your judgment' in the above quote. it talks about accepting things as they are, in pursuit of love.

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let me put this into perspective :

what you call judgment, is discernment of things.

at no point there is any recommendation of NOT judging things in Ra material - there is no relevance in between judging and acceptance/love.

a person who ignores all judgments, ignores all differences, ignores the nature of things and people will not end up 'loving'. s/he will end up as willfully ignorant.

love is, knowing what things are, and THEN accepting them. you cannot accept what you ignore the nature of. it just means, you are ignoring it.

in the end, what matters is what you do with your judgment. not whether you judge, or not.

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all in all, i think that this 'judgment' thing is something that plagues american culture as far as i see it. there are a lot of cultural, political, religious, racial, social differences, and the apparent solution found to these things - as far as i can see from media, laws and whatnot - is to encourage ignoring of these, rather than acceptance of these. these wont go away and bring about harmony by ignoring them though.

as for spiritualism, if an entity doesnt use its judgment, how is it supposed discern right or wrong according to its path ?

the question is rhetorical.

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seejay, did you read the starter post? Ra says about Patton: "The sum total of this incarnation vibrationally was a slight increase in positive polarity"

seejay21, what are you attacking internally? There is something there that is not of this thread. The posts triggered something deeper in you. We aren't trying to lynch anyone by our claims of their polarized level.

Someone along the way here stated Patton participated in War, he clearly isn't harvestable. This statement is wildly distrorted. the opposite is actually more true, participating in war might be the defining catalyst to see things clearly.

ra had said that, because he saw universal love and STILL continued to fight, he lost harvestability. not 'someone'. they outright stated that, seeing universal love, and STILL warring, reduces harvestability.

I'm actually very humble about what i've come to know. I'm so humble about it, I don't want to even really mention it, or even say I'm humble about it either. I don't ever talk about it, except for my wanderer story.

with all due respect, maybe it is not that you are humble about what you know, but rather you are unwilling to know and take responsibility ? there have been a lot of statements you have made about Ra material in your above objections, which went as far to say the word 'judgment' doesnt pass in the material. not to even mention awareness of judgment being necessary for an entity to discern what is right/wrong for its particular path.

it goes without saying that entities should use judgment to discern what is right or wrong, according to their conscience. proposing anything to the contrary, would be "Aleister Crowley".

i think it is more likely that what is being discussed in this thread, has touched a personal situation of your own, and hence you are a bit overreacting.