Guardians of the quarantine doesnt seem infallible

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Apparently Jesus found his way out of the third-density illusion prior to the closing of the major cycle of third density.

i dont think this is applicable. jeshosuah was a wanderer, and if he didnt get tangled with planetary 3d, he could return to his normal density when he died.

The only way out of which I am aware is through harvest. I've never been sure that a wanderer can come in for a pre-determined set time at the expiration of which they return home without having to meet the requirements of harvest (except perhaps in the case of the walk-in).

no requirement was set at any point for wanderers' return to their home social memory complex or density in Ra material, except that the entity should not get itself entangled with planetary vibrations, and become a 3d entity in spirit.

moreover, 3d harvest is not 4d harvest, or 5d harvest and vice versa. the requirements and what is sought in these harvests differ greatly.

I think however that the data is available to substantiate or at least infer the positive corollary.

The group of 150 in South America had the opportunity of harvest at the point of the ending of a 25,000 year cycle, not as a result of the type of self-harvesting we are discussing.

But their situation seems emblematic of the basic attitude of the positively oriented entity when faced with harvest - it may desire to stay on in the illusion for further service and suffering.

it is rather definite that positive entities also have the possibility of getting harvested through contacting intelligent infinity before harvest time. since, no conditions were given for that, but only contact with intelligent infinity.

however, the question and angle i am approaching from is this - you need to be able to amass/use a certain amount of energy for contacting intelligent infinity according to material.

negative entities can do that by getting energies from other entities. however, positive entities need to be in an environment which is sufficiently positive.

and it seems, on this planet, such a situation which would provide energies enough to contact intelligent infinity before harvest had not happened.

I agree that at the base of all evolution of every entity is the driving force of the upward spiraling light. Across the board this indwells in all entities, so it is, as a manifestation of the Creator's desire to know itself, the "major propagator" of all seeking.

However you were pointing to a specific class of entity - the wanderer - and discussing the increased probability of their seeking the gateway.

Both the wanderer and the non-wanderer are propelled "forward", so to speak, by the upward spiraling light. So there must be other factors that make the wanderer more aware of this upward spiral, or grant greater access to the upward spiral, or create the motivation to work with/utilize the upward spiral - in short, other factors which cause an assumed statistical increase in the wanderer's seeking of intelligent infinity in contrast to the non-wanderer.

the wanderer, having more concentration, and more spiritual bias in regard to the upward flowing light for hundreds of millions of years, would get affected by the upward stream much more than a 3d entity. it would drive the entity like a truck. or, crash into the wall if blocked.

Zenmaster wrote: I wonder if perception of intelligent infinity is in any way like a satori? After a satori there is no 'going back', and you have a 'ground of being' that seems to support everything.

Zenmaster, how would you define or describe satori? (I know that it is one of many terms used to point to various grades of self-realization, but it's basic meaning escapes me at the moment. I can look it up of course but its meaning to you is most pertinent here.)

I have experienced many things that could be considered 'paranormal', but all of those can be described. This experience was beyond words, but it's like you are suddenly a part of everything or connected to everything, and you 'know' you're directly participating as a creator in the present creation. You are connected to your 'true nature', which is eternal. You are not guessing this is what's happening, you are defining the meaning of it. It is an extremely peaceful feeling of sacredness, there are no limits. It is not a suggestion, or something interpreted through the senses - you know it is real. There is nothing ever to compare with the experience as far as a profound indication of 'true reality' and 'beingness'. So when it subsided, I was thinking to myself, 'that's cool that that type of experience is even possible'.

thats a description of contacting infinite intelligence alright.