Now THIS is REALLY INTERESTING!!

[Raman]

Identification and projection. We are always slaves to our unconscious misunderstandings - whether we think we care or not.

Maybe zenmaster you are the one doing all this projection?

After all, what it was being discussed or argued about was because apparently, I was careless in my definition of wanderer, and I did not address the issue because I did not see it as that important as to start an argument...Then you posted right in the middle?


Maybe I am wrong, and I believe you have come a long way form previous arrogant posts...I think you are opening up yourself more and I like that.

Maybe we should get together in the Home Coming and discuss all this like good wanderers...

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Raman, I intially placed myself as the Flaky referenced by Zenmaster. I did, LOL, but I had to really process it before I could remove myself from where I had consciously placed myself. You may be doing the same. Who knows what or who he had in mind while writing that? But I still initially took it to be me, and it wasn't his fault that I did that. Whatever way I justified it, I removed my perception that it was me. My bias. My distortion.

(By the way, I always think of ramen too. Not to be insulting)

Why do you think I chose that handle? I love top ramen!! It is great. It causes good old diabetes, has no antioxidants and they go right to my thighs!

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I did not view it as an attack...others apparently did...

I guess I was naive enough to take personally. Maybe you can provide a quote next time? So I know what exactly you are referring to? There are indeed differences between wanderers and dual activated one ...of course! But dual activated entities are 4d harvested...already harvested...that is 4d in a 3d (for now) body...able to withstand 4d vibrations...however, will die as 3d bodies die....The difference is dual activated ones have dual activated bodies are come only from 4d. Veil related and things like that will happen after 4d activation. A spirit of not a 3d density is a wandering spirit. Even in 4d astral planes and not incarnated. Could I be wrong, yes. Do I care? Maybe not so much at this point.