(06-19-2011, 07:37 PM)unity100 Wrote: the only examples which may be given as to being 'adequately free' from orange patterns are people like diogenes and similar, who lived in hilltops half naked in barrels.
lol..
Ok well, that's fine. I still disagree. It would be a good assumption to say the working factor here is the veil though. It seems to heavily distort the ability to analyze, and so the energies get improper consideration and have difficultly correctly seeping into the unconscious.
There are those however that have penetrated the veil in certain respects, like you and I, who are able to not be as affected by the lower energies. I'm not sure that I would conclude our Earth's history to be an indicator opposing what I say, and supportive of your position. There have been valiant efforts and individuals in the past, but the collective hindered the process. On Venus it was a harmonious place courtesy of a weaker veil.