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    Thread: is it a cop out to medicate?


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    06-12-2011, 12:10 PM
    I think I understand what you're going through, I tried to be a new age puritan for over a year, I wouldn't even take advil when I had a cold or headache. Talking to a psychologist/psychotherapist/psychiatrist once every week or two might be enough to alleviate much of your problems, there's a therapy called CBT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_b...al_therapy) where you identify the automatic thought which generated the feelings/mood you don't like, it is possible to do it on your own but why should you if there's thousands of medical professionals out there who are willing to help you by listening to you and giving advice, it really reduces the burden on you. It is possible in theory to cure all thought sheer will power, meditation, visualizing, belief, etc. but forcing yourself into that kind of ascetic-mode is unbalanced and can cause other issues.

    Quote:Questioner: Am I correct, then, in assuming that discipline of the personality, knowledge of self, and control in strengthening of the will would be what any fifth-density entity would see as those things of importance?

    Ra: I am Ra. In actuality these things are of importance in third through early seventh densities. The only correction in nuance that we would make is your use of the word, control. It is paramount that it be understood that it is not desirable or helpful to the growth of the understanding, may we say, of an entity by itself to control thought processes or impulses except where they may result in actions not consonant with the Law of One. Control may seem to be a short-cut to discipline, peace, and illumination. However, this very control potentiates and necessitates the further incarnative experience in order to balance this control or repression of that self which is perfect.

    Instead, we appreciate and recommend the use of your second verb in regard to the use of the will. Acceptance of self, forgiveness of self, and the direction of the will; this is the path towards the disciplined personality. Your faculty of will is that which is powerful within you as co-Creator. You cannot ascribe to this faculty too much importance. Thus it must be carefully used and directed in service-to-others for those upon the positively oriented path.

    There is great danger in the use of the will as the personality becomes stronger, for it may be used even subconsciously in ways reducing the polarity of the entity.

    And there's another quote, I think it's by Q'uo so I can't find it, it goes something like: living a life that uses catalyst to its fullest efficiency (or focuses too much on spiritual stuff, or something like that) will be emotionally dry/empty (so it's not ideal).

    And the fact that this "spiritual side" of yours nags you relentlessly means its not actually your higher self or a guardian angel or something like that because a higher consciousness STO entity would gently give suggestions, relentless annoying nagging to the point of questioning the validity of a medical system which does help the majority of people who use it, sounds more like STS stuff to me. I have a part of my mind like that too, it nags, it tells me to focus on what Ive done wrong and what I can improve, this leads to depression because if all you think about is how you can do better you'll never be happy, it's much better to focus on the things you've done well and the things which make you happy, because then you'll become happier and attract those things you're thinking about.

    I've never used prescription medication and I am skeptical of it, but If I was in serious pain of any kind whether physical or mental I would rather risk using it than continuing my suffering. We didn't come here to be self discipline supermen who can levitate mountains with our minds, we came to blend into the societies we were placed in and change the planetary consciousness from the grassroots level in local, non-visible ways. So there's nothing wrong with trying something which works for the majority of people who use it, and there's nothing wrong with being flexible and trying something "un-spiritual" as long as it doesn't hurt anyone in any considerable way.

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    is it a cop out to medicate? - by Oceania - 06-12-2011, 10:45 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-12-2011, 11:24 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by zenmaster - 06-12-2011, 11:39 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-12-2011, 11:41 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by turtledude23 - 06-12-2011, 12:10 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-12-2011, 12:58 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by 3DMonkey - 06-12-2011, 02:10 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Brittany - 06-12-2011, 03:53 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by BrownEye - 06-12-2011, 10:11 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by turtledude23 - 06-12-2011, 10:56 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by BrownEye - 06-12-2011, 11:40 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-13-2011, 01:04 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Ankh - 06-13-2011, 05:06 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by native - 06-14-2011, 02:53 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by BrownEye - 06-15-2011, 01:53 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by kycahi - 06-12-2011, 10:19 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-12-2011, 11:07 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by 3DMonkey - 06-12-2011, 11:19 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 05:49 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Oceania - 06-13-2011, 09:00 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-14-2011, 01:51 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Oceania - 06-14-2011, 02:34 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Oceania - 06-14-2011, 02:56 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by native - 06-14-2011, 03:13 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Oceania - 06-14-2011, 03:21 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by 3DMonkey - 06-14-2011, 04:01 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-14-2011, 07:02 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by 3DMonkey - 06-14-2011, 07:28 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by JoshC - 06-14-2011, 04:03 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Oceania - 06-14-2011, 10:57 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-15-2011, 12:53 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by native - 06-15-2011, 11:50 AM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by kycahi - 06-15-2011, 05:23 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Oceania - 06-15-2011, 06:37 PM
    RE: is it a cop out to medicate? - by Monica - 06-15-2011, 06:44 PM

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