(07-20-2009, 03:51 AM)ayadew Wrote: Hello Monica. I do not classify any music as "dark" or "negative", for they are the manifested intention of the wish to share an individual inspiration of what the person find beautiful.
Perhaps you experience some blockage in love, then please find comfort in that the world is not a dangerous and serious place. May you be afraid of that the experience will change you? The Moon in tarot, the card of change, is not an entirely positive one still.
I understand your point and agree. The 'dark side of the Moon' is not to be feared or shunned, but embraced, integrated, and transmuted. It is not the darkness that makes me uncomfortable, but the blatant themes and vibrations of discord and violence.
I am perfectly ok with exploration of the deeper aspects of our psyche, but for me, lyrics that advocate violence or vocals that sound discordant have no resonance. I unapologetically reject them.
However, where I get ensnared is when the lyrics are unknown to me, or my distaste for the vocals overpowered for my love of the instrumentantal portion of the song.
(07-20-2009, 03:51 AM)ayadew Wrote: I've had many a spiritual experience with 'darker/negative' music.
What would you consider darker/negative? Some might consider prog-rock bands of the 70s like Genesis to be such - Genesis was the original Goth band! Yet I love Genesis and find the music beautiful.
(07-20-2009, 03:51 AM)ayadew Wrote: I classified me as one of the 'goth' once, but I found that to be a very limited experience in the end. Today I do not wish to classify me as anything, as I believe by principle for that to be limiting and separating.
Agreed!
(07-20-2009, 03:51 AM)ayadew Wrote: Well, I have a love for the night and things that are mystical and forbidden
I hae a love for the night, especially when there's a Moon! and for that which is mystical. Whether it's forbidden or not seems irrelevant to me. I don't want to explore that which is forbidden simply because it's forbidden - then those who deemed it 'forbidden' would have just as much power over me as they would if I avoided same because it was forbidden! (I hope that made sense, ha.)
(07-20-2009, 03:51 AM)ayadew Wrote: - yet I still do not wish to see anyone harmed and love all things.
Same here. Therein lies my dilemma. Some of the lyrics of the newer bands are quite violent in nature. I'd rather not know what they're saying.
(07-20-2009, 03:51 AM)ayadew Wrote: When you percieve music as dark, what do you think of the creators? Are they terrible, depressed and negative people, or may they potentially hold my principles of appreciation?
I don't really think of the music's creators. I certainly don't think of them as terrible. The art they create is but a reflection of an aspect of them. I don't judge them based on their art.
(07-20-2009, 03:51 AM)ayadew Wrote: So, in the end I cannot even see the darkest of music as negative. There is love in all things, if you can find it.
Absolutely agreed! But neither must I seek out the dark corners, necessarily.
(07-21-2009, 04:04 AM)ayadew Wrote: Interesting, you suprise me with your musical taste Monica!
Yeah, that's what everyone says!
(07-21-2009, 04:04 AM)ayadew Wrote: Albeit I knew nothing of it, but some stereotypical ghosts still linger in my head...
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(07-21-2009, 04:04 AM)ayadew Wrote: Yes, they are instrumentally fantastic. "Cthulhu Dawn" in Midian comes to mind, also the song which serves as an intro to that one. "In golden mirrors" too
I do like much of Midian. Not sure of the song titles, though. I find Dusk too chaotic, or maybe it's Dani's vocals. I know the purists say they got too commercial with Nymphetamine, but I prefer it. It's more polished and musically stunning.
(07-21-2009, 04:04 AM)ayadew Wrote: I think they're quite cuddly on the inside also.
I can't help but wonder how Dani would react if he knew we were describing his dark, obscene music as 'cuddly!' Oh, it would be fun to see his reaction!
(07-21-2009, 04:04 AM)ayadew Wrote: Dimmu Borgir I just laugh at (or with, if they take themselves as serious as I do...); their stuff being so overdramatised and bloated with the "devil" and "evil" that I just find it plain humorous.
Hmmmm....maybe I should try that. Maybe then I could enjoy them. They are musically amazing sometimes.
(07-21-2009, 04:04 AM)ayadew Wrote: It seems like we have quite a number of people listening to darker music, and still find the love within. I'm grateful to you for doing this, and not simply ignoring it after seeing the illusion of negativity.
Thank you for that! I probably would never have brought up the topic, were it not for Taha and Ali (I think it was them) bringing up the topic of 'dark' music on another thread. I hope I don't lose my job! (just kidding!)
Seriously, I really am interested in how such music might affect us spiritually. Vibration is so important, and music is so powerful - especially music of this nature, which powerfully activates the lower chakras, then brings deep emotions up to the surface...I find the death/black metal genre particularly activating. I think as long as I am conscious of it, it can be positive. Sometimes I can't handle it and turn it off, and other times I find it cathartic. I am grateful to the artists for expressing what heretofore had been suppressed. The question is: Exactly what is happening chakra-wise when we listen to such music? I still seek the answer to this question.