07-20-2009, 10:20 PM
Becoming trapped: That's how the protagonist's situation was presented in The Nines. I can't really speak to the concept because it doesn't apply to me personally... and I just deleted the rest of that sentence because it was irrelevant. Ha! As Queen of Argh! Part II I can do that, too!
That's precisely why I enjoyed it so much - you were sharing a bit of your own personal path and experience. So often, discussions of spiritual reality become (and often start out as) completely removed from the human aspect of life, focusing more on where one believes one will be once human life has passed. We're humans now, however; that's what we have in common, sometimes moreso than who and what we are (as individuals) beyond here....
It finally sunk in for me today why I so often feel somewhat alienated from discussions in spirituality-based groups: My own perception of spiritual reality places an equal emphasis on all aspects of life, placing equal value on 'above' (life experienced as spirit) and 'below' (life experienced as physical); one is no more or less valid and of value than the other; in fact, there is no real separation: I am who and what I am at all times, regardless of how I experience my self in any given state. It's all life, it's all be-ing, it's all valuable... and that's my perception, and I do not believe it's the only 'correct' way of viewing things. For me, it is correct but I understand there are those whose paths, in terms of spiritual evolution, are not the same as mine. One whose path is focused more specifically toward ascension, for instance, may not view physical life as equal in value to the ascension/spiritual evolution process of their particular paths. For such ones, perhaps the destination is more valuable than the trip. The difference in perspectives, equally valid as they are, still throw me off sometimes.
Question: Whose guilt is it? Are you experiencing the feelings you had during that lifetime, feelings you have toward those memories, or both?
plur
Taha Wrote:I just thought it was me rambling on as I tend to. Interestingly enough, I thought about what I'd posted yesterday about the young relative and the military, and wondered if I should remove it or tone it down.
That's precisely why I enjoyed it so much - you were sharing a bit of your own personal path and experience. So often, discussions of spiritual reality become (and often start out as) completely removed from the human aspect of life, focusing more on where one believes one will be once human life has passed. We're humans now, however; that's what we have in common, sometimes moreso than who and what we are (as individuals) beyond here....
It finally sunk in for me today why I so often feel somewhat alienated from discussions in spirituality-based groups: My own perception of spiritual reality places an equal emphasis on all aspects of life, placing equal value on 'above' (life experienced as spirit) and 'below' (life experienced as physical); one is no more or less valid and of value than the other; in fact, there is no real separation: I am who and what I am at all times, regardless of how I experience my self in any given state. It's all life, it's all be-ing, it's all valuable... and that's my perception, and I do not believe it's the only 'correct' way of viewing things. For me, it is correct but I understand there are those whose paths, in terms of spiritual evolution, are not the same as mine. One whose path is focused more specifically toward ascension, for instance, may not view physical life as equal in value to the ascension/spiritual evolution process of their particular paths. For such ones, perhaps the destination is more valuable than the trip. The difference in perspectives, equally valid as they are, still throw me off sometimes.
Taha Wrote:I also have different vague memories of WWII, and one dream of being incarcerated by Germans in a filthy little prison in France as a spy, along with a woman I know but can't place. She was killed, but I escaped, and whenever I find myself back there in lucid dreams, remembering what's happening/going to happen, I feel such terrible guilt about it.
Question: Whose guilt is it? Are you experiencing the feelings you had during that lifetime, feelings you have toward those memories, or both?
plur