07-12-2009, 09:31 AM
(07-12-2009, 04:01 AM)ayadew Wrote: The sounds which can be produced by humans are very limited, I'd doubt any kind of name would be truly representative of a vibratory complex, because that's what they are... complexWell, the human voice is extremely flexible compared to most animals on our planet. Most, just not all. We can actually make a lot more sounds than we usually imagine. Human language knows somewhere around 50 sounds. Each human language uses at most only half of these. And it's not likely that this 50 is the limit. Throat singers go beyond and are actually able to make 2 or 3 sounds at the same time. As if they have two mouths. (I hope it sounds better on your side. My speakers are crappy)
Still your argument stands because on my own I can't even imitate, say: the sound of a dying giraffe with any accuracy... It's just an approximation.
Quote:But you can invoke them in your mind. All humans has a certain 'feeling', and if it's subjective or objective I do not know. If I was without distortions I'm sure I'd see the 'feeling' objectivelySound in the world is only a reflection of sound in the mind. You surely know the question. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make sound? The answer being no, sound isn't sound until the brain interprets it. Before that it is vibration, just like images are vibration just like taste smell and sensation are vibratory effects.
Anyway. In sufism they have this dzikr thing going on. It's like buddhist mantra's. But the Muslim variant of it. Performed here by a few women. I don't know their song I think they're singing "God is God" but that's just guessing really.
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The biggest difference with buddhist mantras is that it's much more active. You're not sitting still. You're supposed to dance and move.. If you've never tried it it'll be worth it. The point is that if you cycle the sound continuously it becomes one sound. All the complexity that is in the sound the different rhythms become one. And like mantra's these can be complicated. When you feel inside that they are combined to one complex you're doing it right. It's as if you start to hear a sound within the sound.
Anyway, it's of course only an approximation of the true spiritual sounds that would be soul names. But still I consider them related.