(05-14-2011, 10:34 AM)Confused Wrote:I've read some of his work and listened to his speeches and watched his PBS interview and a dialog with Bohm. I recognize something about where he is 'coming from'.(05-14-2011, 10:17 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Some people are born differently, like Jiddu Krishnamurti whose perception of 'time' was more of a 'non-dual' nature.
I have seen this statement from you for a couple of times now, but did not think about it much. But now it intrigues me. What was Jiddu's personal conception or lived experience of time, as you say it was different with him from birth? I would appreciate your thoughts on that.
Are you a keen student of Jiddu's works?
'Thinking' involves establishing a causal chain of concepts, since there is an ordering involved, this is necessarily dividing up 'time' by creating an artificial separation. This separating is symbolized by the sword of the tarot (sword cuts).
Krishnamurti was not born with the 'natural' instinct to separate in the commonly accepted manner, so people thought he was quite an idiot as a youngster. Presumably he had somewhat of a challenge early on trying to figure out how to 'think'. But, remarkably, he eventually did this, and by doing so he was able to bridge both worlds of perception, so to speak. Like a pioneer or hero coming back from a long journey of discovery. Basically, most of the ideas he expresses are of the problematic nature of thought. Here's a short essay.