04-27-2011, 04:39 PM
Not really a reference to either party, only an examination of the movement of harmonically dissonant perspectives in relation to eachother. Forgive me, I have visualistic words in my mind often. Although I do think that to defend any one particular position is misleading and rather preference should be the focus. Is it really possible to account for the intentions of those whom have never even experienced these teachings? Is it right to label any action of anyone as STO or STS based on our own perspective? It seems to me like a single person has a mix of both traits, like a point at the center of two lines moving between either end. Or perhaps more like a circle with a single point of balance, ultimately the two unite. With that in mind, I think perhaps it would be most fruitful to examine the consumation of animals on the principles of energy transfer, experience and in context of the time and lessons most prominent at the moment. Of course, this has been done much in this thread, but I would simply iterate the awareness of reactions, that all you experience stems from your own perceptions. It was not the difference in opinions that I was referencing but the nature of the discussion as a surface level conflict, one which is distortion to both parties, since I am quite sure there are no ill intentions, only miscommunication.
One thing I'll mention is that there is service to self and service to other-selves, does that make animals other-selves? If this is true wouldn't it be of service to the animals to allow them to be of service to us? Will all animals eventually be ensouled and will this pre-3D experience be useful? What is it the animals are learning in their density? I'm sure there are answers in the material for this, but I am curious as to how this may relate from a perspective. Also, the second density is composed of the first, the third is composed of the first and second, so the fourth must be composed of the first, second and third, and so on. If that is true it would seem that each level is responsible not only for themselves but for those they have "surpassed". If the fates of animals are "automatic", I think that really alludes to the fact that WE are the Guardians, just as the shepherd is. This means we are also responsible for the caretaking of the planet, being composed of the first density. In this light, it would seem the consumation of our charge would indeed be poor guardianship, especially since as mentioned there are forms of food which do not require a violation or intentional harming of life. Animals are more useful to help GROW food rather than to be food. Also, many animals are still primitivistic because they are /treated in the manner of beasts/. The reason we do not regularly telepathically communicate with animals and plants is because we have given them the identification of being incapable of communication with us, we reject them regardless of how they yearn and reach out. Our image of them has both them and us in isolation from eachother, our exaltation of ourselves has produced such pride as we feel we are the masters of life, yet are we not all subject to similar Guardianship above us? Are we not within life, as cells within a body, and are we not at the moment attacking that body with neglection and rejection? All it takes to hurt an entity is to accept it or reject it, and humans have become so self-hating in so many ways, even those with common values will not allow themselves to perceive another perspective in an unbiased manner, there is so much bias. We are here to establish our position, in 4D I believe is where we must determine its intensity. We are already on the way in to 4D, having been permeated by it for half a century at least, and we draw ever further over the gradiant.
Of course, to note is that we are all faced with the acceptance or rejection of our chosen path. Will we be Guardians of the Earth in Harmony with the Planet, or will we be the Guardians of the Earth in Harmony with Ourselves? We all know the implications, the choice is right in front of us, all there is now, in this world, is action.
One thing I'll mention is that there is service to self and service to other-selves, does that make animals other-selves? If this is true wouldn't it be of service to the animals to allow them to be of service to us? Will all animals eventually be ensouled and will this pre-3D experience be useful? What is it the animals are learning in their density? I'm sure there are answers in the material for this, but I am curious as to how this may relate from a perspective. Also, the second density is composed of the first, the third is composed of the first and second, so the fourth must be composed of the first, second and third, and so on. If that is true it would seem that each level is responsible not only for themselves but for those they have "surpassed". If the fates of animals are "automatic", I think that really alludes to the fact that WE are the Guardians, just as the shepherd is. This means we are also responsible for the caretaking of the planet, being composed of the first density. In this light, it would seem the consumation of our charge would indeed be poor guardianship, especially since as mentioned there are forms of food which do not require a violation or intentional harming of life. Animals are more useful to help GROW food rather than to be food. Also, many animals are still primitivistic because they are /treated in the manner of beasts/. The reason we do not regularly telepathically communicate with animals and plants is because we have given them the identification of being incapable of communication with us, we reject them regardless of how they yearn and reach out. Our image of them has both them and us in isolation from eachother, our exaltation of ourselves has produced such pride as we feel we are the masters of life, yet are we not all subject to similar Guardianship above us? Are we not within life, as cells within a body, and are we not at the moment attacking that body with neglection and rejection? All it takes to hurt an entity is to accept it or reject it, and humans have become so self-hating in so many ways, even those with common values will not allow themselves to perceive another perspective in an unbiased manner, there is so much bias. We are here to establish our position, in 4D I believe is where we must determine its intensity. We are already on the way in to 4D, having been permeated by it for half a century at least, and we draw ever further over the gradiant.
Of course, to note is that we are all faced with the acceptance or rejection of our chosen path. Will we be Guardians of the Earth in Harmony with the Planet, or will we be the Guardians of the Earth in Harmony with Ourselves? We all know the implications, the choice is right in front of us, all there is now, in this world, is action.