(04-26-2011, 12:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Monica. It was my suggestion to begin with that STO reason with the aggressor. To which you retort "split second" or not enough time.
You suggested reasoning with the aggressor instead of directly stopping him. I didn't 'retort' but simply offered an example of a case in which there might not be any time for reasoning. Certainly, if there's time, that's a viable option. The entire discussion was about those cases in which there isn't time for that, or it doesn't work. That's why I said "reasoning with him" if there's time, is a given.
(04-26-2011, 12:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I feel like I'm being made out as though I'm suggesting what someone should do.
No, you've made it clear that you can't know exactly what to do in any given situation, until one is in that situation.
You have, however, been very unshakable in some views that I would consider rigid and absolutist. It's rigid and absolutist to state that xyz action is "always" STS, without taking into consideration what Ra has told us regarding intentions, the gradations of polarity, free will, etc. These are all factors that come into play, that you seem to be ignoring.
(04-26-2011, 12:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I really don't think that you have stopped to actually read my words.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they haven't considered your viewpoints. If anything, it is you who seems to not be reading the words of others (not just me). I cannot be accused of not reading your words, when I have actually responded to nearly every point you've made.
Which you haven't done with my points, leading me to conclude that you aren't reading or considering my words.
That's ok. That is your prerogative. But please don't assume that someone hasn't considered your points, when they have spent a lot of time actually answering your points, when you haven't done the same.
(04-26-2011, 12:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: By all means, you should follow your heart, your distortions, in all that you do.
Yippee! Something we can agree on!

(04-26-2011, 12:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'm only saying that controlling an action of another is STS, and not to fool yourself.
You have repeated that numerous times. I understand that is your view. And, in a simplistic situation, of course that is correct. But, respectfully 3DM, you seem to be ignoring the complexities.
(04-26-2011, 12:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:(04-26-2011, 12:48 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I would add also that, a mother's love for her child is one of the most beautiful examples of STO love we have here in 3D. To reduce the powerful love of a mother for her children to mere 'self interest' is, in my opinion, a disservice.
Omg mOnica! One moment in time does not make an entity. Omg
I said nothing about "making an entity." You did. You made a judgment about the intentions of a mother, which you cannot possibly know.
As a mother, I find it distasteful, even offensive, to be told that when I take any action on behalf of my child, it is out of self-interest. You made that blanket statement. You aren't a mother so you cannot know.