04-26-2011, 11:46 AM
Wow, thanks to spero, Az and Ens for joining the thread. I was getting frustrated at the verbal rock throwing (I meant that in a good way ) that two terrific people were engaged in. There's nothing wrong with having passion in point making, by the way.
It's morning in CA, I took my anti-deps and a mug of Kona coffee and I feel ready to chime in (or it's just a dopamine high ).
I have posted often that 3D is full of bumblers feeling their/our way toward making the Choice while accruing truckloads of experience. I think that murder is an extreme example of bumbling and experiencing. Mass murders, such as the industrialized version of Nazi-ism or the horrific goings on in Cambodia and Stalinist era USSR, were probably carried out mostly by loyal, deluded and dedicated followers rather than STS choosers. Some inner circle henchmen of those leaders may have chosen STS, but most of the carriers out of the murderous policies were enslaved more than intending toward STS, IMO.
I don't think that a 3Der who chooses STS will start packing a gun and look for targets. That's bumbling. The job of an STSer is to follow the orders of his/her recruiter and start recruiting his/her own followers with promises of power or secret knowledge or just, initially, a better life. I submit that murder is a product of our 3D physical, mental and spiritual noise most of the time.
So, what's a STOer to do? I think that I can accept and love a murderer even as I deplore that behavior. If one of them points a gun at a loved one, I hope that I would try to intervene by pleading with that person to think it through. I also hope that I would stand in the way of the bullet as I do this. This would be service to the loved one AND to the bumbler by my informed accepting of a possible outcome.
I hope I'm never tested, though. I might just cowardly turn tail and run away.
It's morning in CA, I took my anti-deps and a mug of Kona coffee and I feel ready to chime in (or it's just a dopamine high ).
I have posted often that 3D is full of bumblers feeling their/our way toward making the Choice while accruing truckloads of experience. I think that murder is an extreme example of bumbling and experiencing. Mass murders, such as the industrialized version of Nazi-ism or the horrific goings on in Cambodia and Stalinist era USSR, were probably carried out mostly by loyal, deluded and dedicated followers rather than STS choosers. Some inner circle henchmen of those leaders may have chosen STS, but most of the carriers out of the murderous policies were enslaved more than intending toward STS, IMO.
I don't think that a 3Der who chooses STS will start packing a gun and look for targets. That's bumbling. The job of an STSer is to follow the orders of his/her recruiter and start recruiting his/her own followers with promises of power or secret knowledge or just, initially, a better life. I submit that murder is a product of our 3D physical, mental and spiritual noise most of the time.
So, what's a STOer to do? I think that I can accept and love a murderer even as I deplore that behavior. If one of them points a gun at a loved one, I hope that I would try to intervene by pleading with that person to think it through. I also hope that I would stand in the way of the bullet as I do this. This would be service to the loved one AND to the bumbler by my informed accepting of a possible outcome.
I hope I'm never tested, though. I might just cowardly turn tail and run away.