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    Thread: Ra's "photon" vs. electromagnetic radiation


    Ens Entium (Offline)

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    04-01-2011, 05:48 AM
    Hi Poffo

    Sorry for being late about this. As i understand the reciprocal system of theory, the photon can be thought of as the basic unit of motion, this is scalar motion. 'Vibrational' motion. The various rotations result in different the different phenomena and particles. By the way, there was a Q'uo transcript in which it's mentioned that the imbalance between the energies of space and time are what result in the oscillatory motion, that we detect as 'a particle'. I can't find it now but one can search for it.

    There are a good series of essays on the reciprocal system's website. In the collected essays section, look at the series called "Step-by-Step".

    http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/ce/step/index.htm

    The sections i think will be of particular interest to you are sections D,E and F.

    From section D:
    Quote:# The vectorial direction corresponding to this inward (negative) scalar direction, like the vectorial direction of the non-rotating photon, is a result of viewing the motion in the context of an arbitrary reference system, rather than an inherent property of the motion itself. The vectorial direction is therefore determined entirely by chance in both cases. However, the non-rotating photon remains in the same absolute location permanently (unless acted upon by an outside agency) and the direction determined at the time of emission is therefore permanent. The rotating photon, on the other hand, is continually moving from one absolute location to another as it travels back along the line of progression, and each time it enters a new location, the vectorial direction is redetermined by the chance proess. Inasmuch as all directions are equally probable, the motion will be distributed uniformly over all directions in the long run. A rotating photon will therefore move inward toward all space (or time) locations other than the one that it happens to occupy momentarily.
    # Since space and time locations cannot be identified by observation, neither inward nor outward motion can be recognized as such. It is possible, however, to observe the changes in the relations between the moving units and other physical objects. The photons of radiation, for instance, are observed to be moving outward from the emitting objects. Similarly, each rotating photon is moving toward all other rotating photons, by reason of the inward motion in space (or time) in which all participate, and the change in relative position in space can be observed. This second class of identifiable objects in the theoretical universe thus manifests itself to observation as a number of individual units which continually move inward toward each other.
    # As in the case of the photon, the identification is obvious. The rotating photons are atoms. Collectively they constitute matter, and the inward motion in all directions is gravitation.
    # In three-dimensional space, the fraction of the inward motion directed toward a unit area at distance d from an atom of matter is inversely proportional to the total area at that distance; that is, to the surface of a sphere of radius d. The effective portion of the total inward motion is therefore inversely proportional to d². This is the inverse square law to which gravitation conforms.
    # On the basis of the foregoing, gravitation in the theoretical universe being developed from the postulates is not an action of one aggregate of matter on another. Each atom and each aggregate of atoms is pursuing its own course independently of all others, but because each observable unit is moving inward in space, it is moving toward all others, and this gives the appearance of a mutual interaction. However, if we examine the characteristics of the force that each atom or aggregate appears to be exerting upon the others, we find that this is a force of a very peculiar nature. The gravitational "force" acts instantaneously, without an intervening medium, and in such a manner that it cannot be screened off or modified in any way. These observed characteristics are so difficult to explain theoretically that most theorists have taken the rather unscientific stand that the observations must, for some reason, be wrong, and that notwithstanding the observational evidence to the countrary, the gravitational effect must be propagated through a medium, or something with the properties of a medium, at a finite velocity. It is particularly significant, therefore, that the theoretical characteristics of gravitation, as derived from the postulates, are in full agreement with the observations. Motions which are totally independent of each other will necessarily have just the kind of characteristics that are observed in gravitation.
    # In the foregoing paragraphs, it has been noted parenthetically that the gravitational motion may be regarded as a force. The relation between the two concepts can be illustrated by a simple example. Let us assume a motion x existing coincidentally with an equal and oppositely directed motion, y. In this case, we can either take the position that both motions exist and that one neutralizes the other, or we can say that there are two forces tending to cause motion, but that no motion results because the forces counterbalance each other.
    # As noted in items 5 and 6, gravitation may take place either in space or in time. When it acts in space, the atoms of matter continue to occupy random locations in time, and vice versa. In an observable aggregate of matter the atoms are therefore widely dispersed in time even though they are are continguous in space. The inverse type of aggregate in which the atoms are continguous in time, but widely dispersed in space, is unobservable.
    # In dealing with the magnitude of the gravitational effect, we will need to take into account this point that spatial locations have no independent existence. A spatial location is merely one aspect of a space-time location. Gravitation therefore moves the atoms of matter toward all space-time locations, even though the inward movement is limited to space. Because of the random locations in time, an aggregate of n units of motion occupies n widely dispersed locations in space-time. In the apparent interaction of an aggregate of n effective units of motion with one of m effective units, each of the n units is moving toward each of the m units, and the magnitude of the gravitational effect at unit distance will therefore be nm. The factors that necessitate the use of the term “effective” in the foregoing statement will make their appearance later in the development.
    # All matter is subject to gravitation by reason of the same thing that makes it matter; that is, the rotational motion of the atoms. Gravitation is therefore the second of the basic motions (or forces) that determine the course of physical events.

    From section E:
    Quote:#
    It is not possible, however, for a one-dimensional object, such as a photon, to have rotational motions of the same kind in all three dimensions. Rotation of the photon cannot take place independently around the line of vibration as an axis. Such a rotation would be indistinguishable from no rotation at all. The photon may, however, rotate around its midpoint. One such rotation generates a two-dimensional figure, a disk. Rotation of the disk around a diameter generates a three-dimensional figure, a sphere. Since no fourth dimension is available, this process cannot be continued farther. The basic rotation of the photon is thus two-dimensional.
    #
    With this two-dimensional rotation in existence, the photon may rotate around the third axis in the opposite scalar direction. This is a rotation of the sphere generated by the basic rotation. Since the two-dimensional rotation is distributed over all three dimensions, the additional rotation in the third dimension is not required for stability of the structure, and the total rotation of the atom therefore consists of a two-dimensional rotation of each photon, with or without an oppositely directed one-dimensional rotation. For convenience, we will refer to the one-dimensional rotation as electric rotation, and the two-dimensional rotation as magnetic rotation. At the present stage of development, there are no electric or magnetic forces in the structures under consideration, but the identification of "electric" with "one-dimensional" and "magnetic" with "two-dimensional" will be of advantage when electric and magnetic phenomena are introduced later in the development.
    #
    The speed of the electric rotation is independent of that of the magnetic rotation, except to the extent that probability considerations favor the magnetic rotation, and the speeds in the two magnetic dimensions are partially independent, inasmuch as this rotation may be distributed spheroidally rather than spherically. Consequently, there are a number of different combinations of rotational speeds, which give rise to corresponding differences in physical behavior: differences in the properties of the various rotational combinations, we may say. The theoretical universe thus contains many different kinds of atoms with different properties. These can be identified as the chemical elements, each element corresponding to a specific combination of rotations.

    The rest of section E is interesting because he goes on to show how the various chemical elements are classed according to how rotational motion happens. It makes me think of the bit where Ra says that materials (it was a crystal i think) are "frozen light". I see now, frozen in motion. Really neat. Smile

    Here's from section F:
    The displacements given are displacements in the time dimensions. net time displacement.
    Quote:2. On this basis, the sub-atomic particles are not constituents of atoms, as viewed by current physical theory. They are incomplete atoms; that is, they are rotational combinations which do not have enough net total time displacement to form the two rotating systems that are required by the definition of an atom previously stated.

    Quote:Summary of Sub-Atomic Particles
    Particle

    Displacements
    Electron

    0-0-(1)
    Rotational Base

    0-0-0
    Positron

    0-0-1
    Electron Neutrino

    ½-½-(1)
    Muon Neutrino

    ½-½-0
    Proton

    1-1-(1)

    These are the quote i think address what you're looking for. Let me know what you think...

    Alternatively, you could think of the photon being the mediator of electromagnetism and then you can see gravity as the BxV EMF, caused by moving electrons, field asymmetrically acting in the direction of the proton, to give you the central tendency. This then deflects electron orbitals and then atoms to the more massive object (atom).

    Let me know if i left out anything here, i haven't looked at RST with regard to strong and weak nuclear forces.

    Thank you for bringing this topic up! Smile

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    Ra's "photon" vs. electromagnetic radiation - by Poffo - 03-07-2011, 12:26 AM
    RE: Ra's "photon" vs. electromagnetic radiation - by Crimson - 03-07-2011, 01:06 AM
    RE: Ra's "photon" vs. electromagnetic radiation - by zenmaster - 03-07-2011, 01:44 AM
    RE: Ra's "photon" vs. electromagnetic radiation - by Etude in B Minor - 03-31-2011, 07:27 PM
    RE: Ra's "photon" vs. electromagnetic radiation - by Ens Entium - 04-01-2011, 05:48 AM
    RE: Ra's "photon" vs. electromagnetic radiation - by transiten - 04-01-2011, 03:52 PM

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