03-29-2011, 09:37 PM
(03-29-2011, 01:24 PM)norral Wrote: but if your physical condition is so intense that just survival is a big issue then it is basically impossible to devote much time or thought to anything else. from a buddhist standpoint they would say that karma is involved but i just dont believe in karma personally. could it be choice that we make preincarnation.
And sadly, it is something that the logoic powers know very well. As Ra said as part of 39.10 -
Quote:The basic pivotal points of each level of development; that is, each density beyond second, may be seen to be as follows: Firstly, the basic energy of so-called red ray. This ray may be understood to be the basic strengthening ray for each density. It shall never be condescended to as less important or productive of spiritual evolution, for it is the foundation ray.
The experiment has provided its knowing, but still, the powers that can change it cannot do anything about it, as the plan of the ages have to run the full course, despite whether many unsuspecting entities get crushed with needless incarnational pain in the process.
With respect to pre-incarnational choice, I cannot quibble. It is freewill and that is period.
But the problem is that there are random catalysts involved and it is just that-random-, which means it can be anything. Please sample the following extract from 33.12 -
Quote:Firstly, the planetary catastrophes, as you may call them, are a symptom of the difficult harvest rather than a consciously programmed catalyst for harvest. Thus we do not concern ourselves with it, for it is random in respect to conscious catalyst such as we may make available.
The second portion is this: the results of the random catalyst of what you call the earth changes are also random.
If planetary catastrophes can get random, then I shudder to think about it at the individual level, wherein unique circumstances can bring about the most nasty random situation. All the pain in Japan, in Haiti, in New Zealand, etc, were visible to everybody else. And thus, we are able to relate to those who suffer. And we cannot look them in the eyes and tell them that it may be random. Because they/we would definitely want to see some higher purpose behind the pain, in my opinion. But what about the individuals who cannot even articulate their position because of the extreme cruelty of the random catalysts that afflicted them or afflicts them? For instance, people on whom medical experiments were performed by the Nazis during WWII, while they were yet conscious?