03-28-2011, 09:47 PM
(03-28-2011, 09:23 PM)hogey11 Wrote: I agree with you here, but I think it might not be so simple. I would argue that our 3D selves/entities/artifacts are a subjective thing rather than a concrete matter. 3D will cease to exist because we won't be able to think in 3D, nor will the tools/feelings/infrastructure we have built for our lives in 3D matter to us or be useful to us. In this way, the entire world undergoes a shift where the purpose and focus is love. I think this could be a transformational thing, and maybe in a way/manner that we don't understand or isn't yet possible in our current space/time. I realize I am going against the grain here, but I see a bright future ahead
Okay - what if what is really being discussed here is the full activation of the 4D world and our ability to manipulate it. Once the 4D green sphere comes into complete activation, the building blocks are then given to us, and we can start to do things such as creating things with thought. At this point in space/time, we are in a 3D sphere with 3D understandings. It would take an immense amount of discipline to penetrate the veil and contact intelligent infinity to do some of these feats. However, in a 4D world with a 4D body (with no veil), these abilities become simple. The Green 4D Sphere may just be the harbinger of the awakening of our 4D selfs (indeed 3d/4d hybrid, but we don't know how bad that is yet!)
ra doesnt talk vaguely - in any vague case they clear things quite precisely.
you are 'interpreting' the concept of a sphere, and the solidity of that sphere. however the context these words were used in, and the way they were used, are pretty much solid :
the green ray sphere is not solid at the moment and uninhabitable. once the sphere is formed, it can be settled, it is said. it is also noted that this sphere was being formed.
had it been a 'full activation' (quite vague concept by the way) sense as you interpret, the sphere would not be forming.
ra had had said that the green ray spectrum was here, and its effects were beginning to be felt - like thoughts becoming things in the form of diseases. IF, green ray sphere solidity meant things like thought forms, these thought-created stuff, it would be partially habitable by now, since there are already a lot of entities functioning in the green ray spectrum. (3-4d entities the least).
but this sphere is said to be forming, but not solid and uninhabitable.
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i had had thought like you before. however after rereading the quote about the green ray sphere's forming, i had had seen that concept of a real sphere is being relayed.
Quote:I don't see how the question could not be 'yes' no matter which side you take. If I am incarnated in a 3D/4D body in order to witness the harvest, and that incarnation ended, I would expect to end up in a full 4D body post-harvest. I agree that we do not know how compatible the 3d/4d body will be with a fully activated 4D sphere, but I am not convinced that the answer is "completely incompatible".
entities had had incarnated in 3-4d bodies not to witness the harvest. the entities incarnating in these bodies are here for doing early 4d work, and helping form the 4d society. these are already harvested entities. this is what we are told in Ra material.
3-4d body would probably be incompatible with advancing stages of 4d.
Quote:I see it far more likely as our 3d/4d bodies acting as cocoons, where once we "grow" enough we can bust out of our shells and enter our 4D incarnation, or it could be that we live out our human-length lives (maybe kicked back up to 900 years for the fun of it) while 4D is birthed around us. Once we kick the can in our hybrids, we come back in full 4D.
note that no 'cocoon' process is described at any given point in Ra material. the point where death-birth cycle stops, is named as the point in early 7d, when the 'need to reuse body complexes end'.
from this, we understand that birth-death is a reality even in 6th density. leave aside being a reality in 5th density, the density of bodies that mold according to the will of the entities inhabiting it.