3D/4D as a perception

[hogey11]

it was directly and explicitly stated that the entities in 3-4d bodies would have to die in order to incarnate in 4d bodies, by Ra. this was also redoubled in another quo session. however you already seem to remember these, so i wont dwell on these.

as for 3d and 4d spheres thing, remembering what Ra says about 3d sphere, after no 3d entities remain on this planet, is worth of note :

another quote that explains the concept of sphere :

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#32

so, thought forms, artifacts, feelings 3d entities produced, in addition to 3d entities' bodies, create 3d sphere, apparently.

I agree with you here, but I think it might not be so simple. I would argue that our 3D selves/entities/artifacts are a subjective thing rather than a concrete matter. 3D will cease to exist because we won't be able to think in 3D, nor will the tools/feelings/infrastructure we have built for our lives in 3D matter to us or be useful to us. In this way, the entire world undergoes a shift where the purpose and focus is love. I think this could be a transformational thing, and maybe in a way/manner that we don't understand or isn't yet possible in our current space/time. I realize I am going against the grain here, but I see a bright future ahead

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#22

above further ties the concept of a planetary sphere closely to the entities that create it.

however, the below is a quite curious quote :

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#25

basically it says that 4d sphere now exists more in time/space than space/time, and not solid. when fully activated, it will be solid and habitable upon its own.

this, basically clears the debate regarding dimensions. it basically says, 4d sphere is a sphere that will be formed, and will become solid, and will be habitable on its own. so, basically it will be like another 'dimension' compared to 3d we experience now.

Okay - what if what is really being discussed here is the full activation of the 4D world and our ability to manipulate it. Once the 4D green sphere comes into complete activation, the building blocks are then given to us, and we can start to do things such as creating things with thought. At this point in space/time, we are in a 3D sphere with 3D understandings. It would take an immense amount of discipline to penetrate the veil and contact intelligent infinity to do some of these feats. However, in a 4D world with a 4D body (with no veil), these abilities become simple. The Green 4D Sphere may just be the harbinger of the awakening of our 4D selfs (indeed 3d/4d hybrid, but we don't know how bad that is yet!)

however the below quotes rather definitively clear the question of 'ascension' with 3d body or even 3-4d body :

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#13

13, and 14th quotes are asked quite in detail, and answered in detail. notice how with 13th question, there occurs the possible concept of a 3-4d dual activated body being a 3d body activated and a 4d body activated on top of it, and, don asks the 14th question on this assumption, but, ra answers quite clearly this time, says

"The third and fourth, combination, density’s body will die according to the necessity of third-density mind/body/spirit complex distortions."

this basically means, dual activated body is a combination body, which is capable of living in 3d while still appreciating 4d.

the question that whether this kind of body, can vibrate appropriately and live and inhabit the 4d sphere to be formed, is a question in itself. however, don's question is about the necessity of death for these dual activated bodies to make 4d transition, and the answer seems to be yes.

I don't see how the question could not be 'yes' no matter which side you take. If I am incarnated in a 3D/4D body in order to witness the harvest, and that incarnation ended, I would expect to end up in a full 4D body post-harvest. I agree that we do not know how compatible the 3d/4d body will be with a fully activated 4D sphere, but I am not convinced that the answer is "completely incompatible". I see it far more likely as our 3d/4d bodies acting as cocoons, where once we "grow" enough we can bust out of our shells and enter our 4D incarnation, or it could be that we live out our human-length lives (maybe kicked back up to 900 years for the fun of it) while 4D is birthed around us. Once we kick the can in our hybrids, we come back in full 4D.

I only mean the threshold of our 'power' (if u wanna call it that) will be raised in 4D to support a different train of thought, where we don't have to factor in 3D confusions.

doubtful, due to a few reasons :

4d body still is a physical body. it reacts more easily to the thoughts of the entity and is much lighter, yet still not moldable like 5d body. even 5d body has to die.

this planet is in the early stages of 4d vibrations. that means, the full effects of 4d may no be present. in turn this means the full metaphysicality of 4d (compared to 4d) may not be here rightaway. basically thoughts may not be things, as fast as they become things in late 4d.

actually a very good thing, considering the 3d thought forms that still fly around. and the thoughts in society complex that are not so positive or harmless/helpful.

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No, what I mean is that 3D thought patterns will not occur to us in 4D. Example would be bluffing; this action is useless in 4D, as your thoughts are clear to others. These 'powers' are what will separate us from our current 3D world, in my crazy opinion