Karma + desire

[Diana]

Karma, to me—and Ra alludes to this—is attachment.

This applies in some ways, but I'm not sure that this definition is comprehensive.  If you were to offer love to someone, and much love were offered back to you, is that love offered back not a form of karma (cause and effect)?  Would you call that attachment?  A strong desire to open to accept love--to offer another example--can lead to interesting consequences as well, can it not?  Would that be attachment?  I think not.  I think it's a pathway of growth defined by desire and universal response.  Another way of putting it is that desire can be the means of choosing catalyst, and this can be either sticky (with karmic loops) or beatific or something else.  Does that sound right?

Attachment is simply expecting a certain outcome. Drop the expectation, and you have no attachment. This is of course related to the wave state vs. the particle state, but I won't bore everyone with that again.

Offering love to someone (or more to the point, in general as a radiating signature) is the service so to speak; if love were offered back it is not the point. If one operates this way—cause and effect; service offered, reward received; love someone, they love you back—then yes I think that is the karmic loop. If the service is offered freely with no expectation of return then there is no karmic involvement or stickiness. 

In the cause and effect idea, and the idea of catalyst producing a beatific or karmic loop effect, that would depend on how, or if, one processes it. If it results in no attachment (forgiveness for example for self and other), then the catalyst has been used efficaciously. 

In the LOO community much conversation happens around the idea of harvest, and likewise in religious communities the idea of reward in the afterlife of some kind, for acting in certain ways. This is cause and effect. But what if one bypasses the idea of cause and effect, not expecting anything? 

This is not to suggest there aren't beatific moments in life. This is only to say not to expect them. If I give money to a homeless person, I do not expect gratitude or love or anything from that person. I give because I can, because the person is in need, and that is all. I do not revel afterwards in, or expect, a "good feeling" of being generous. I need no reward nor do I judge what the person is going to do with the money. I don't mean to sound as though I am some saint in this regard, I am far from that. It's just that catalyst and life have taught me the concepts of detachment from outcome, and how that relates to expansion of consciousness.