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    Thread: Animal food in diet


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    10-28-2021, 01:16 PM
    (10-26-2021, 10:43 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: As a decades-long veg*n (vegetarian/vegan), I am very curious about how Law of One views killing/consuming 2D beings (which of course includes both animals and plants, and mine is a plant-based diet).

    As Diana points out, Ra gives information specific to Carla due to her health issues. Here is another Carla-specific advice. 

    Quote:84.2 Questioner: In the last session you mentioned least distorted complex protein in that the body complex of the instrument was capable of greatly increased distortion. Would you define the protein of which you spoke and we would like to know, increased distortion in which direction, towards health or ill-health?

    Ra: I am Ra. We were, in the cautionary statement about complex protein, referring to the distortions of the animal protein which has been slaughtered and preservatives added in order to maintain the acceptability to your peoples of this non-living, physical material. It is well to attempt to find those items which are fresh and of the best quality possible in order to avoid increasing this particular entity’s distortions which may be loosely termed allergic.

    I wonder what "loosely termed allergic" means? Could one experience allergy-like distortions (symptoms) from consuming meat?

    I understood Ra to be giving advice to Carla specifically here in session 84 (as in other sessions), in as non-infringing manner as possible. 

    Ra's info may be applicable to the rest of us humans: plant-based, and to the extent necessary for the individual MBS complex, the least distorted complex protein. And then if deemed necessary, "fresh and best quality possible" animal proteins.  

    By its very nature, if/when we consume an animal protein, slaughter of a 2D animal is a given. I know of no way in this 3D illusion to consume animal meat that does not involve killing the animal ... against its will. So it seems to be an infringement upon their free will. 

    I kill and consume plants (which are 2D beings) for sustenance of my 3D body, etc. While my 3D brain perceives a seeming difference between killing an animal and a plant, is there a difference in terms of Law of One?  

    Do we, as 3D beings, have any "rights" over lower-density life forms (e.g., disregard their free will) under Law of One? Does the Law of Free Will apply to us 3D beings? Or, when does the L of FW start applying? 

    Has anyone found any Q'uo information on this topic? 

    I tried vegetarianism and it was unsustainable. I have also tried 0 carb keto, and lasted for nearly two years that way, and sustainably low carb 20-100 carbs per day for even longer.

    My view of this, which is based largely on the Ra material, is that any life form used for food should be sincerely thanked for its service, be raised or farmed is the most humane way as possible, and harvested or slaughtered in the manner which causes the least pain or harm as possible. As to morality, the nature of 2nd density life according to Ra is such that animals and plants are part of the group, and do not have individual consciousness. They are attempting to learn individual consciousness and many animals which are raised as pets I believe do so during their life.

    I also have done extensive research on diet over the years and health and I am 100% certain that humans evolved to eat meat, and I do not believe it is optimal to go against nature.

    Interestingly there has been a growing number of people who have highly allergic reactions who have ended up to a full carnivore diet after following an elimination protocol. The most outspoken is Mikaela Peterson, who had such severe arthritis that she had to have her ankle replaced at the age of 17. She only was able to eliminate her symptoms by eliminating ALL plant based foods and even a lot of meats.

    There is also an increase in things like celiac disease and diverticulitis which are caused by grain and seed consumption. Many people achieve relief by eliminating grains and eating more meats and vegetables.

    Fundamentally though an allergic reaction is your body reacting with an immune response to what should be a benign substance. Since our thoughts create our reality I can see many people who believe meat eating is immoral, or otherwise wrong creating that type of reaction in themselves. It should also be considered that the 80s and 90s were the height of factory farming and inhumane farming in the US. It wasn't until around 2k when people started looking for humane and naturally raised foods and the organic food movement began.

    I don't think we have rights over lower density life forms. I also believe that infringement of this nature is unavoidable. All we can do is to make this as small an infringement a possible. I do not believe that plant based eating is the way to do so. I believe that is largely pushed by the giant agribusiness companies who make more money from selling plants, than meat.
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    Animal food in diet - by llseeker - 10-01-2021, 12:44 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by meadow-foreigner - 10-01-2021, 04:51 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 10-01-2021, 12:18 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by llseeker - 10-01-2021, 05:25 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by IndigoSalvia - 10-26-2021, 10:43 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 10-27-2021, 10:30 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by siyasood - 11-17-2021, 04:08 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by schubert - 10-28-2021, 01:12 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 10-28-2021, 01:16 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by pat19989 - 10-28-2021, 01:29 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 10-28-2021, 09:23 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by IndigoSalvia - 10-28-2021, 02:19 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by IndigoSalvia - 10-28-2021, 12:15 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 10-28-2021, 01:59 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 10-29-2021, 11:08 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 10-29-2021, 03:56 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 10-29-2021, 06:43 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 10-29-2021, 10:11 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 10-30-2021, 11:36 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Spaced - 10-28-2021, 02:47 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by IndigoSalvia - 10-29-2021, 11:07 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by MonadicSpectrum - 10-31-2021, 03:32 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 10-31-2021, 08:11 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by MonadicSpectrum - 11-01-2021, 09:22 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by schubert - 10-31-2021, 05:12 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 11-01-2021, 10:15 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by pat19989 - 11-02-2021, 12:03 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by schubert - 11-02-2021, 12:29 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 11-02-2021, 09:36 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by pat19989 - 11-03-2021, 04:07 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 11-02-2021, 07:13 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by flofrog - 11-02-2021, 12:35 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by flofrog - 11-02-2021, 05:14 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 11-02-2021, 08:15 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by schubert - 11-11-2021, 04:43 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 11-14-2021, 07:59 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by schubert - 11-15-2021, 04:59 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Dtris - 11-15-2021, 10:10 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by schubert - 11-16-2021, 09:52 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by IndigoSalvia - 11-13-2021, 01:20 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 11-14-2021, 11:13 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by schubert - 11-16-2021, 10:33 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 11-17-2021, 06:18 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 11-17-2021, 12:31 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by IndigoSalvia - 11-15-2021, 01:10 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 11-15-2021, 02:22 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 11-15-2021, 02:49 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by zedro - 11-15-2021, 04:15 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by llseeker - 01-03-2022, 02:47 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Bosphorus1982 - 01-03-2022, 04:31 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 01-03-2022, 06:32 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by IndigoSalvia - 01-03-2022, 09:23 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 01-04-2022, 11:40 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by flofrog - 01-03-2022, 10:25 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Patrick - 01-12-2022, 09:42 AM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by omcasey - 01-12-2022, 07:17 PM
    RE: Animal food in diet - by Diana - 01-22-2022, 12:07 PM

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