Comparing Ra and the Cassiopaeans

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Now, on dystopian sci-fi visions...

• They both claim to be the same individuals as their channels, though 'from the future'; 
  
• They both claim that, in their future perspective, things are bad and tyrannical, so they intended to change things up with time travel.
  

In this sense, they can persuade the channel and the audience to legitimize their message, all for the 'sake of the greater good'. Nevertheless, interference is interference, no matter how it's presented or how it frames itself.

In this sense, these sources are both serving their Selves and their agenda.

There's complexity to it all, and distinctions that come and go, and several types of claims going in several directions, and several sentiments, and elaborations added over time. So it's very open to interpretation, by design.

Now for ideas of battles between timelines, thousand-year periods of transition, etc.

"Neil" on the Cassiopaea forum wrote a summary in 2016 on the "alien threat" which grouped ideas and claims into 4 different timelines. From here. It's different from my own old thoughts, and complementary to the way in which I've compared the C's and sci-fi, so I think it's well-worth quoting for further discussions here. I added a few {notes} to fill in missing context here.

4. The "beginning" of the transition period of 1000 years seems to be crucial to me. If the 4D STS are going to try to control us in 4D and they have hybrid bodies ready, it would seem to me that perhaps the mass destruction and death of the current batch of 3d bodies occurs in 3D and the reincarnation occurs in 4th where 'we' will again face another sales job. "Check these bodies out! You can have the best of both worlds!" Or something like that. I would bet they are thinking that the SAME scam that worked 300,000 years ago will work again. The C's did say that it is important WHEN you choose, and I think that there will be a welcoming committee in 4D all lined up to try to sucker us in again.

{This refers to the C's idea that 4D STS lured humanity into the bodies people live in in this world (Earth) long, long ago in the past, trapping people here in a long series of incarnations under the control of a 4D STS system. Before that, supposedly, humanity was less physical and in a different type of body in a 3D STO world.}

Yeah, that was kind of my point. In reading the transcripts, it would seem that the Cassiopaeans have made prognostications on several different timelines, which are occurring concurrently within the framework of a larger multiverse. Some of the sessions seem to contradict each other, however the contradictions disappear if you view time as a probabilistic ocean existing in the plane of eternity, instead of a linear progression.

The first broad group of timelines is where 4D STS completes their agenda, the hybridization is successful, and the circle is closed on a much finer order of control. This is the "tyranny world" that the Pleidians and Marciniak talk about a lot where humans become "cyborgs," a metaphorical description of a hyperdimensional process, or advanced artificial intelligence as Renaissance put it. It is also the future that Jacobs {David Jacobs, author of The Threat} is getting a glimpse into. You would experience this reality if you make the grade for 4D STS.

The second broad group of timelines, has to do with repeating 3D. In this timeline, the cataclysms {predicted cometary bombardment etc.} come and destroy everything, and everything is reset. 4D STS gets a massive boost of energy from culling the herd, and this is used as a springboard to sustain the first group of timelines. The farm {how the current "3D STS world" is sometimes described} is then reconstituted to serve its traditional role as an energy source. You would experience this timeline if you fail to see and understand the point of polarization.

The third broad group of timelines is the timeline that eventually gave birth to the Cassiopaeans and made their transmissions possible. This is the "paradise world" where we eventually evolve into them in what we would perceive to be the distant future. This would be the reality experienced when the Great Work is completed and Mouravieff's last Judgment finally separates the wheat from the tares.

There also seems to be a fourth group that is hinted at from time to time, a timeline where everything goes to complete chaos, people disintegrate, and the planet basically just blows up. This represents a failure for both sides, and no one really wants it.

The splitting of these probabilities probably began in 0 New Year, two years ago {the C's made "the year" marking change 2014 instead of 2012}, but these realms are so different from each other that it takes them a while to "energize." There are 998 years to go, or the equivalent amount in human experiential energy. At this point, the different possibilities exist quite close to each other and overlap to a significant degree. We are in a superposition of possibilities where they all interpenetrate. 4D STS wants to capture the maximum amount of energy from the plane of eternity in order to support the first group of timelines. They erroneously believe they can make it the only choice and therefore the only possible outcome. However, they don't have the power to make something that exists in the plane of eternity nonexistent. It is always there, it is always possible as a choice, existing in the intelligent infinity of the DCM {"Divine Cosmic Mind", God}. When that choice is "found" and actualized, then the third group of timelines becomes manifest.

I expect that 4D STS will use any and all dirty tricks before the timeline has acquired enough energy to split off into the STO realm. It will be quite a struggle to keep up with everything going on. One of the early sessions gave a basic rundown of it, although many more details came later.

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    Q: (L) Is there going to be massive disruption on the planet and maybe a lot of people transitioning out of the body simultaneously because of the interaction of this cluster of comets and the earth.
    A: Close.
    Q: (L) And, shortly following this event, Christ will return?
    A: As part of the whole.
    Q: (L) That is going to be part of the cluster of comets activity?
    A: After.
    Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?
    A: Teach.
    Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to receive this teaching?
    A: Open.
    Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?
    A: Assume as you please.
    Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of the whole as though there is some important thing that I am missing the question to discover. Consider that question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.
    A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.
    Q: (L) And that is...?
    A: The transition to 4th density.
    Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen before the comets or after?
    A: After.
    Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth going to....
    A: Precede the transition.
    Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?
    A: No.
    Q: (L) It's not going to have anything to do with electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the atomic vibrations of the planet?
    A: No.
    Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?
    A: Before.
    Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ comes?
    A: More or less.
    Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back and everything is sort of straightening out and he is teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
    A: No.
    Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
    A: Technology.
    Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
    A: Yes.
    Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media, television and radio and so forth?
    A: Some.
    Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to this transition, going to leave in large groups with the Lizzies?
    A: Yes.
    Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with the Lizzies?
    A: Close.
    Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on the planet and areas under the control of Christ?
    A: Christ does not control.
    Q: (L) Will the Lizzie people come out of their cities from time to time and "molest" the followers of Christ from time to time?
    A: Maybe.

If all of the tricks and "molestations" are overcome, eventually the realm becomes bifurcated and the STO group can move into a completely different realm and work on strengthening their polarity without interference. I don't think this occurs right away, but at the end of the "thousand year period."

As an aside to Bjorn, we were approaching this subject in the aura reading thread. I don't think that it is until after this time that we have any stake in becoming architects of the school. Up until that point, we are probably too busy getting our bearings and fending off attacks to be too concerned about world creation and world maintenance on that scale on a practical level. After the "Last Judgment" the psychopaths would be gone, however that happens, because they would serve no purpose in that 4D reality, after the choice is made. It would be after that, when we are far enough along to begin "seeding the 3rd density universe," we might be looking at what tests and challenges are necessary to make this or that realm an optimal learning environment.

Pretty much. Though, as I said, I would leave that door open a crack.

Yeah, leaving the door open a crack is prudent, for the obvious reason that we can't know for sure. I think there is a real problem here with the literal vs symbolic interpretation of some of the UFO phenomenon. There are the physical craft that are seen and photographed in our skies, but then there is the "close encounter" aspect that is really a problem because it seems it can take place on a level that is non physical. At that point, objectivity from a 3D perspective goes out the window.

We see a reflection of this even in some of what the Cs say. Looking 'down' at us, they may see the physical reality, and also the non-physical reality of which we are generally unaware and only receive hints and impressions because it is non-physical. Until such time as we can perceive that non-physical reality directly, it's always going to be very problematic to accurately translate it into physical 3D terms. As we go along however, and watch events unfold, we can get better at understanding how to accurately translate from one to the other.

I suppose in 4D the thought-reality connection is much more immediate, so perhaps it could even be that vaccines and GMOs are metaphors for alien hybridization, instead of the other way around? Maybe that's a natural result of the higher "material friction" lower densities have, where reality is far less responsive to thought.

Well, since a lot of these abductions seem to be "soul replication" as opposed to physical abductions, it would make a lot of sense that they could do a lot of hybridizing by tweaking your energy field, which informs the genetics and therefore effects the structure of the physical body. It is a different process from the more mundane, test tube type of hybridization, but accomplishes the same practical result. Also, I don't see why the couldn't bounce signals off the cell towers or something to reorganize information fields that are uncrystalized, and hybridize people that way without ever having to abduct them at all. However, despite that, there does seem to be a physical nuts and bolts aspect of it, even if it is secondary. I don't think one should get "too hyperdimensional." I'm reminded of this session

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    Q: (L) Well, if these craft emerge into our reality from fourth density, as I assume some of them do, how do they stay here? Do they become absolutely physically material and do they remain here?
    A: If they malfunction in third density, they then become frozen in third density. Very simple.
    Q: (L) And, does the same hold true for the beings?
    A: Precisely.
    Q: (L) So, in a very real sense, they are very real and physical...
    A: They are very real and physical in fourth density, too. The difference is that fourth density physicality is not the same as third density physicality. But that is not to say that there is no physicality in fourth density. In order to completely remove all attachment to physicality, one must reach sixth density or higher. Everything below that involves some aspect of physicality or attachment to physicality; as in fifth density, the contemplation zone, which is simply a recycling of those from 1st through 4th densities, in the etheric plane. They are brought back down and recycled into one of the physical realms. Each density level one through four, involves lesser and lesser physicality, as you know it, but nevertheless there still is physicality. Third density physicality, however, remains constant on third density when a being or a craft or an instrument of any kind manufactured or conceived in fourth density arrives in third density, it is able to navigate through third density in fourth density reality. However, when it malfunctions, whatever is left of it remains in third density. Those reports of objects or of any physical structure whatsoever, be it a being or a construct, disappearing from third density to fourth density, in each and every case, involves an object or a being, or a construct, which is not in the process of malfunctioning. It is still fully operational at its fourth density realm. It is merely visiting third density which has a limited capacity, as you measure time in its passage, therefore it does, indeed, remove itself naturally, at some point, to fourth density. However, if it malfunctions or is in any way broken or altered, it will remain in third density.

The variable physicality thing is a bit of a head scratcher; it doesn't have much precedent in esoteric traditions. To me, the best approximation of 4D existence for the layperson would be legends of wizards, who could turn into various things, teleport, work spells which gave them profound influence over the physical environment, and had a sort of hyperawareness of the subtle energies which animated the universe. It doesn't get too deeply into the time travel and technical aspects of how it might all function, but when I first started reading the material that was a mental image that popped into my head that I could relate to. I also thought of the Vorlons and the other First Races off the Babylon 5 series, but that show probably didn't go quite far enough and you have to be a bit of a sci-fi nut to appreciate it

I think that is a great summary of much of the thinking of the Cassiopaea community. It gives a broader vision connected to ideas of a battle between good and evil, and it's tied to the idea that their community is a unique "lighthouse" showing the way in a world of darkness. Somehow, the general idea goes, a small portion of people -- righteous and good in all the ways which matter -- will make it, and end up together in a bright future, while all the rest -- people unlike them -- will fail and become food for aliens.

An alternative idea, a way of looking at it which turns it all on its head, is this: The "tyranny world" in which people are like zombified controlled cyborgs is something that happens inside smaller groups and societies controlled by 4D STS in the shorter-term future, in arrangements which ultimately do not last. Eventually, the future becomes a different, and more positive, future, but in the short term 4D STS wants to establish little "kingdoms" on the planet and squeeze the people who move into them as much as possible. As for the larger world, it's on the whole going to be messy and metaphysically unpolarized (simply generally sloppy and chaotic) for a long time, containing the elements for bursts of both positive and negative activity for a long time.

Instead of several conflicting timelines, in each of which world events line up neatly into one particular picture of those described, maybe the future will, for a long time, contain a mixed-up mess, in which different persons go different ways. There could also be crises. But basically, I think the messy world will remain messy for a long time, while visions of more neat futures (both good and bad) will continue to be dreamed about by many.