02-26-2011, 06:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2011, 07:30 PM by BlatzAdict.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky
i got my info about him from here because i was curious to read about him
lol yossarian so you saw my first post.. i deleted it because i didn't want to be argumentative but constructive.
that part i didn't like either, but it's not like he was torturing them or killing them, or raping them..
I think that beginning part symbolized the divinity in all of us.. that beyond the clothes and fashions that we set up for ourselves in society as what is quaint and pretty and good are merely illusions.
By the time it is at the end, he shows that these two women are simply copies of each other, and it made me think that they are two sparks of the one infinite creator.
another example is why do you feel negativity when watching such subjects? The aversion to negativity, to run away... to separate. This is a paradigm of a service to self society.
When it comes to negativity in a service to others society. It is to observe, take out what is useful, and ignore the rest.
for example the venus project, i just learned is some sort of united nations sanctioned proposition 21 or something like that signed by clinton without any sort of house of representatives review board or anything. it just got signed.
so now people are saying oh it's luciferian, it's bad, it's evil.. well what about some of the ideas in venus project? one involves a gigantic building that grows produce, locally without pesticides. it would cut down on gas shipping, prices, just about everything you can imagine is a plus..
then where i pick out the chaff from the wheat... as in the terms of harvest... who is running the building? the gov't? or the people? in that regard, we can have a completely good idea turn into a bad one, or a bad idea turn into a good idea.
attack defend and divide... this is the brainwashing of what duality is, of separation.
observe, integrate and cooperate... this is the paradigm of service to others.
this is why i say in the first post to look inbetween the lines.. read the hidden meanings.. don't take it for face value..
there is this one police guy that takes a protestor and rapes her on the street.. unfortunately this is the reality we live in.... she laughs about it sure.. and then another guy joins in... we are watching the world of the sleeping, the sheep, those that are not fully conscious to their actions. this is further exemplified that she is laughing, she is not screaming in terror. she doesn't know what she's doing, the soldier doesn't know what he's doing, no one knows what they are doing! this is unfortunately the world we live in..
when we watch the scene with the police... we see crowds of the police spraying the rioters and protestors.. isn't that what they do today? except in the movie.. u see a bird fly out of a corpse, that is the free spirit leaving the body.
u see them feed on the intestines and on the entrails... they are feeding off of the light, while the light can be fear, the light can also be the truth.. the light is many things because light is the power of service to self.. light is knowledge or the divisive force. the inward force.
only love is invisible, there is only one kind of love, u can't see or touch love, u can feel it, but u have to have faith that it is there.
another example is the pope who breaks the image of jesus... well who is jesus anyway? do we even know about the true and real jesus or like in society do we only follow the lies and myths of who we think jesus was. there are many false prophets in this world... it would be described by the nuns casting the mold of the christed figure... yet they are all hallow empty shells, who look and feel like the real thing... but they do not have what is inside that counts.
the actual thief or the main character recognizes this so he eats the face of the one he carries, because it is not the true christ. in the beginning people carry around the gutted sheep to symbolize christ.
the gutted sheep on a crucifix... the standard bearer of torture and pain.. and so many our people worship this image of pain and torture. of a man who died for our sins apparently. did he die for our sins... or did he die because of our sins....
again looking inbetween the lines is key to understanding this movie and transmuting the s***... into gold.
it becomes very very obvious when the thief enters the wheel... this is the wheel of life... he shits into a container... gets into this big glass thing and meditates... his sweat encircles around the whole contraption... what do we do when we work? we sweat.
his sweat travels around the whole contraption and transmutes his s***.. into gold... this does not mean physical gold... this is gold of the soul.. this is what true alchemy is. and the s***.. is a physical representation of the s*** within all of us, all of our emotional baggage so to speak.
should i keep going? i feel like i've said too much.. just about every scene in this movie i am able to look at in a positive light.. because i do not avert my eyes from the negativity, rather i understand and acknowledge that the scenes are graphic.
however i look past the initial shock value to uncover the hidden meaning underneath it all. this is the true path of an awakened one.. that follows the path of the light..
i got my info about him from here because i was curious to read about him
Quote:It was in New York City where the film would play as a "midnight movie" for several months at Ben Barenholtz’s The Elgin cinema. It attracted the attention of rock musician and counter-cultural figure John Lennon, who thought very highly of it, and convinced the president of The Beatles' company Apple Corps, Allen Klein, to distribute it in the United States.[16]
Jodorowsky as El Topo in the film of the same name.
Klein also agreed to give Jodorowsky $1 million to go towards creating his next film. The result was The Holy Mountain, released in 1973. It has been suggested that The Holy Mountain may have been inspired by Rene Daumal's surrealist novel Mount Analogue. The Holy Mountain was another complex, multi-part story that featured a man credited as "The Thief" and equated with Jesus Christ, a mystical alchemist played by Jodorowsky, seven powerful business people representing seven of the planets (Venus and the six planets from Mars to Pluto), a religious training regimen of spiritual rebirth, and a quest to the top of a holy mountain for the secret of immortality. During the completion of The Holy Mountain, Jodorowsky received spiritual training from Oscar Ichazo of the Arica School, who encouraged him to take LSD and guided him through the subsequent psychedelic experience.[17] Around the same time (2 November 1973), Jodorowsky participated[18] in an isolation tank experiment conducted by John Lilly.
Shortly thereafter, Allen Klein demanded that Jodorowsky create a film adaptation of Pauline Réage's classic novel of female masochism, Story of O. Klein had promised this adaptation to various investors. Jodorowsky, who had discovered feminism during the filming of The Holy Mountain, refused to make the film, going so far as to leave the country to escape directing duties. In retaliation, Allen Klein made El Topo and The Holy Mountain, to which he held the rights, completely unavailable to the public for over 30 years. Jodorowsky frequently decried Klein's actions in interviews.
lol yossarian so you saw my first post.. i deleted it because i didn't want to be argumentative but constructive.
that part i didn't like either, but it's not like he was torturing them or killing them, or raping them..
I think that beginning part symbolized the divinity in all of us.. that beyond the clothes and fashions that we set up for ourselves in society as what is quaint and pretty and good are merely illusions.
By the time it is at the end, he shows that these two women are simply copies of each other, and it made me think that they are two sparks of the one infinite creator.
another example is why do you feel negativity when watching such subjects? The aversion to negativity, to run away... to separate. This is a paradigm of a service to self society.
When it comes to negativity in a service to others society. It is to observe, take out what is useful, and ignore the rest.
for example the venus project, i just learned is some sort of united nations sanctioned proposition 21 or something like that signed by clinton without any sort of house of representatives review board or anything. it just got signed.
so now people are saying oh it's luciferian, it's bad, it's evil.. well what about some of the ideas in venus project? one involves a gigantic building that grows produce, locally without pesticides. it would cut down on gas shipping, prices, just about everything you can imagine is a plus..
then where i pick out the chaff from the wheat... as in the terms of harvest... who is running the building? the gov't? or the people? in that regard, we can have a completely good idea turn into a bad one, or a bad idea turn into a good idea.
attack defend and divide... this is the brainwashing of what duality is, of separation.
observe, integrate and cooperate... this is the paradigm of service to others.
this is why i say in the first post to look inbetween the lines.. read the hidden meanings.. don't take it for face value..
there is this one police guy that takes a protestor and rapes her on the street.. unfortunately this is the reality we live in.... she laughs about it sure.. and then another guy joins in... we are watching the world of the sleeping, the sheep, those that are not fully conscious to their actions. this is further exemplified that she is laughing, she is not screaming in terror. she doesn't know what she's doing, the soldier doesn't know what he's doing, no one knows what they are doing! this is unfortunately the world we live in..
when we watch the scene with the police... we see crowds of the police spraying the rioters and protestors.. isn't that what they do today? except in the movie.. u see a bird fly out of a corpse, that is the free spirit leaving the body.
u see them feed on the intestines and on the entrails... they are feeding off of the light, while the light can be fear, the light can also be the truth.. the light is many things because light is the power of service to self.. light is knowledge or the divisive force. the inward force.
only love is invisible, there is only one kind of love, u can't see or touch love, u can feel it, but u have to have faith that it is there.
another example is the pope who breaks the image of jesus... well who is jesus anyway? do we even know about the true and real jesus or like in society do we only follow the lies and myths of who we think jesus was. there are many false prophets in this world... it would be described by the nuns casting the mold of the christed figure... yet they are all hallow empty shells, who look and feel like the real thing... but they do not have what is inside that counts.
the actual thief or the main character recognizes this so he eats the face of the one he carries, because it is not the true christ. in the beginning people carry around the gutted sheep to symbolize christ.
the gutted sheep on a crucifix... the standard bearer of torture and pain.. and so many our people worship this image of pain and torture. of a man who died for our sins apparently. did he die for our sins... or did he die because of our sins....
again looking inbetween the lines is key to understanding this movie and transmuting the s***... into gold.
it becomes very very obvious when the thief enters the wheel... this is the wheel of life... he shits into a container... gets into this big glass thing and meditates... his sweat encircles around the whole contraption... what do we do when we work? we sweat.
his sweat travels around the whole contraption and transmutes his s***.. into gold... this does not mean physical gold... this is gold of the soul.. this is what true alchemy is. and the s***.. is a physical representation of the s*** within all of us, all of our emotional baggage so to speak.
should i keep going? i feel like i've said too much.. just about every scene in this movie i am able to look at in a positive light.. because i do not avert my eyes from the negativity, rather i understand and acknowledge that the scenes are graphic.
however i look past the initial shock value to uncover the hidden meaning underneath it all. this is the true path of an awakened one.. that follows the path of the light..