06-30-2021, 03:59 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-30-2021, 04:50 AM by confusedseeker.)
(06-30-2021, 02:48 AM)schubert Wrote: not saying you're doing this, but i know a lot of people try to paint vegetarianism/veganism as being unhealthy/unviable as a way to justify eating meat to themselves and not feel guilty about it.
ultimately all nutrition comes from plants, whether it's an herbivore eating plants directly, or a carnivore eating an herbivore that ate the plants. we're humans, it's the modern age and we're smart and resourceful so why not cut out the middleman and save killing animals if we can.
1. Not at all, I KNOW it's unhealthy for me. I'm not an expert but I know enough and have experimented enough to know what's going on with the diet industry. I have no guilt about eating meat. I cherish animals and farming ( like my ancestors did), and I only consume humanely raised, grass fed, organic food sources (mostly local), and my dairy is usually raw from a local farm. All my veggies/fruits are organic as well, ideally from small local farms.
2. That's not how nature works. You can't just "cut out the middleman." A cheetah can't just "cut out the middleman" when he's hunting for a rabbit and simply nibble on carrots and grass for nutrition...their digestive system is made to digest and absorb the nutrients from meat. A human's digestive system is made to be omnivore, and it digests meat the easiest and absorbs essential nutrients the best from meat (no gas, bloating, literally almost no one is 'allergic' to red meat). The average male needs about 2,000 calories daily for adequate energy. We don't have a huge stomach like gorillas who can just eat bananas and leaves, and we don't have gigantic 4 stomach structures like cows to eat veg all day and gain energy from fermentation of plant matter either. Nature has it's own food pyramid, and I'm thankful for it, and I try to adhere to it as humanely and healthfully as possible. Now that I understand what nutrition REALLY is and the systems/powers/propaganda that are in place to take that away from us and control us, I know I can never turn back. The amount of processed foods a lot of vegans eat is gross imo (oils, supplements, powders, cringy fake meat full of garbage funded by Bill Gates and other tech oligarchs), among other problems with that particular diet.
A lot of the veggies you see in the produce section didn't even exist in that form, we've genetically engineered most of it to be plump and juicy. Our ancestors used produce as a quick burst of energy (small fruits and berries, maybe some starch and roots IF they had time to cook, kale is actually toxic, broccoli is pretty much man made), but the meals they cherished and celebrated together...and HONORED, were primarily animal. Out of the three macronutrients, there is only one that is not essential: carbs....the food pyramid was a lie fed to us by the grain/wheat/corn industry to get us to load up and look what has happened to our collective health. An American diet is now about 70% plant based, loaded with carbs and sugars and processed/refined oils. What you said about children was frightening, but I'd rather not touch an emotional topic such as that. There is a reason why they need a mother's breast milk to develop (and not the soy based BS formulas we've created in a lab or whatever), which is loaded with cholesterol and full animal fat.
The good news is, people are waking up and doing their own research now; people are breaking free of the propaganda and programming. I just caution people about going too extreme in either direction, though I have seen some amazing stories of people going fully carnivore (I just don't think it's sustainable): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FuC8Hn0KRQ. If you suffer from some food allergies or weird digestive issues, a minimal diet like carnivore might be great to try for a month or so to help isolate an issue and give your system a "reset" of sorts.
Best of luck on your nutrition journey.