06-27-2021, 05:08 PM
(06-27-2021, 12:38 PM)Inkshards Wrote:This sort of family dynamic is very common and extremely damaging. If I were to give my opinion based on the little that I know...you did the correct thing by allowing her to have her way which was to leave and by allowing respite for you and your family. Definitely this family dysfunction is a recipe for making children become martyrs because they generally are more responsible for the unit than the parent is able to be and this responsibility is so definite that they "fix" the broken parts of the family. It sounds as if you see this in yourself, the ability to have some actions that are akin to being a martyr. No problem. I feel this is half the battle, the knowing of your own capabilities. It sort of sounds like you will have to create your own sense of unity within yourself as your hoped for family will not be able to provide this for you. Again, I think you know this even though your heart yearns for some healing within your family. I feel you have a lot of really strong qualities and are self realized.(06-27-2021, 07:39 AM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:(06-27-2021, 05:20 AM)tadeus Wrote:I do not think it is fair to bring STS and STO into a discussion which clearly is surrounded by confusion, mental confusion which is due to trauma.(06-26-2021, 10:10 PM)Inkshards Wrote: the point of unprovoked physical assault and destruction of property that she justifies in her own view as being necessary. She also greatly uses emotional manipulation in the form of guilt, self pity and victim mentality to emotionally get us to bend to her will.
That sounds like an unconscious inner struggle with materialism.
But i think this is only a symptom of an other deeper problem.
(06-26-2021, 10:10 PM)Inkshards Wrote: I guess the main concern I have is the polarity issue in that I feel guilty for enjoying this emotional relief and freedom from her. I worry that if I contact her, nothing will change and I'll be pulled back into her behavior but I also don't want to lose a parent and I see that her behavior stems from deep pain and trauma and I honestly don't know if she is fully aware of what she is doing to herself and those around her.
It seems that you have only the choice to fulfill her control or keep your freedom.
So your last conclusion is correct and you must decide how to handle this catalyst.
From my experience there is no really decision possible, because you have to decide between the feelings to your mother and fulfilling the will of someone else (STS).
The logic choice for a being in STO is to accept that you can't be in STO by fulfilling STS.
This is a very difficult subject because this is a trauma that is being replicated and being passed from mother to child. Living with a narcissist can literally be a living hell and will likely injure the entire family. Generally speaking, it is a generational mental/emotional disorder. The narcissist gets worse over time as the narcissist sees that the children are growing up and getting ready to leave the home or have left the home and so they need to maintain a strong level of control at a distance. The healing involved for the children can take literal years of work while they uncover one trauma at a time. So, with that being said...perhaps you are to consider yourself and your personal mental health. Having her gone for a moment has given you all a much needed break. The stress the entire family has been under due to her illness has been no doubt great. Perhaps you could take this much needed time and do some self discovery? Ask yourself, why not have a small break? It does not mean you do not love her and worry for her. She is an adult and trust me, she is fine. They have no intention of self harm if she is a true narcissist. She will be back in one form or another. Please consider your guilt for wanting this time of rest and quiet.
Living with someone like this distorts our thinking and clouds our judgement. Our thoughts will be forever turned toward what the narcissist wants and needs and we will continually forget about our own needs. This leads to us feeling very unworthy of anything that would considered to be "deserving" like love, care, rest and even something simple like eating. This is time that your family has been gifted to you. Hopefully you can see it this way.
-much love
Thanks for the clarification! I struggle with the guilt that she has instilled in us the most and that's what was causing me pain. She isn't bad or a monster. it's just her disorder that makes it hard. I think what is truly at the root of my pain is that I want an emotionally functional family who is there for their children. Seeing her break away is just more of a sign of the unit falling away even more so then it already was. And I know that my desire for functional parents has made me gravitate to relationships that mimic the behavior of one of my parents and/or as a surrogate parent to the detriment of myself.
Your mother will probably return, ok? And if she does not, nothing "made her leave", as always, it is our choice. Aw, your Mother is in pain but please know that their pain will have to be repaired by them and all you can do is work on your own strength and love her (while remaining safe from manipulation).
She manipulates because she feels she is not worthy of love "just because", she feels she has to coherse people into loving her.